A Day in court...

Noddy wrote:

Its rare to see Marco to use the word **** and its rare to see Noddy not
to use the word ****.

 

Whenever I see Marco let loose with the F word, I piss myself

 

Of course---they may be fuckwits,but they're *our* fuckwits...

Postman Pat

 

IK you should be a teacher

TB

 

You like it when he talks dirty?

TB

 

I'm betting he already is, and that would explain a lot.

 

If only people would understand..

TB

 

Yeah - a little Scam is being run there.
You see, the points and fines are what effects you.
So its the degree of the offence that matters to you.

The court itself has a different angle, merely being concerned with
your quilt.
You go in there knowing you've been wrongly accused as to the degree
of stupid arbitrary limit - IOW, that one point for the fine that WILL
nail your licence to the trophy board at the RTA, Main Roads or
wherever is unimportant to the court, and the police know it.

So, it's simple - the court tells you to **** off because of the scam
not allowing the consideration of degree.
You lose.

And you pay the turds - all of them - whether you like it or not.

 

lol a big whoosh isn't it tb?
poor ignorant Noddy

 

Yeah.. I'm getting bored with this one..

TB

 

Like I said.....

 

You bike jockeys crack me up. No, really, you're as funny as a hat full of
arseholes.

Or should that be a newsgroup.....

 

Good.

Go back to telling yourself how intellectually superior you are.

 

Noddy wrote

Yes.. I think I will

TB

 

You lost go back to aus.cars and keep their posts up.

 

Done.

 

Missed this earlier (even though I didn't block the thread).

The court has nothing to do with the points, that is entirely up to the RTA
(or state/territory equivalent). In my last court appearance, the
magistrate explicitly said that he had no influence over the disposition of
the points, while the RTA doesn't care about the fine any more than the
court cares about the points.

You know the bureaucracy, their main (or only) interest is crossing the is
and dotting the ts. The RTA (or equiv) gets a report from the court which
says something like "charged with exceeding speed limit by not more than 15
km/h, found guilty", and the points are disposed accordingly by the
relevant licensing authority.

Gary (except in my case)

 

When you get a fine the allocation of points is the last stage and are not
applied until the matter is finalized, either by you paying the fine or a
court making a decision.

That was explained in the paragraph above. The points come free of charge
with every relevant driving offence. You don't go to court to dispute the
points, you dispute the charge. If you're charged with say speeding by 40kph
and that is worth 4 points, you pay the fine to the cops (or whoever collects
the money) and they advise the RTA and the RTA gives you points according to
the offence you've paid the fine for... ie 4 points. If you take the matter
to court and the magistrate finds you not guilty of exceeding by 40kph but
does find you guilty of speeding by say 10kph then the RTA is notified of the
magistrate's decision and they allocate you points according to the offecce
the magistrate found you guilty of.. ie 1 or 2 points or whatever is
applicable for 10kph.

Nev..

 

Hmmm,
We keep hearing that the offence the magistrate concerns themselves
with it free of consideration of degree.
That the fact that a stupid arbitrary limit was exceeded, and that
having been established means that the charge, which *included* the
matter of degree - stands.


So, which is it?
Could it be that many of the stupid arbitrary limits are in fact not
legal?

 

Hmmm,
We keep hearing that the offence the magistrate concerns themselves
with is free of consideration of degree.
That the fact that a stupid arbitrary limit was exceeded, and that
having been established means that the charge, which *included* the
matter of degree - stands.


So, which is it?
Could it be that many of the stupid arbitrary limits are in fact not
legal?