A Day in court...

Nope, wouldn't bother. It only has to be a reasonable
suspicion. You can prove to the Court that it was
under the 200 watts.

 

There's no need. It's illegal regardless. It is an
unregistered, registerable vehicle.

 

The key point of the whole argument is safety.

At the end of the day, the radar is only there to corroborate
the Police Officers original estimation of the accused's speed
anyway. Your argument above, is a waste of breath.


Spooky

 

Where does the extra power come from?

 

er.. he didn't say it wasn't true. He's happy because he thinks he
knows how much he and his mates can get away with.

Moike.

 

Paul, look at the attributions. Do you know who you are talking to here?

Moike

(registerable my arse!)

 

It's a joke, son.

 

That sounds a bit like a challenge.

All the same, I have in my hand a $50 note[1] that I will gladly
contribute toward your costs if you decide to fight it.

Moike

[1] OK, not necessarily this particular note, but another very much like
it.

 

That's right, the law says you get a fine because a registerable vehicle is
unregistered but there is no way in hell you'd be able to register one of
those things. You can't win either way.

Michael

 

The engine puts in more work. I'm not sure how an alternator works but it is
conceivable.

Michael

 

Exactly. When the ARR's were written, these toys came under
the defintion of a "registerable vehicle". As you rightly point out
though, there is no way in the world one could ever be registered.
Who'd want to anyway?

Spooky

 

Don't they teach you coppers how to spell.

Just reinforces my view of the average plod.

Boxer

 

Why? Think about it. Why would we bother. Uncle
Bully knows he was speeding, he's admitted it in this forum.
I hope when the Court hearing is finished, he realises why he
got a larger fine and a disqualification. People who waste the
courts time deserve what they get.

It's instantaneous for all intensive purposes in this
argument.

Ok, I don't. The amusement comes from my wondering
why on earth you (not you personally) guys think we would
just pull over any car for no reason and say you were speeding.
I couldn't be bothered and no other HWP cop would be
bothered either. In the long term, it's not worth losing my
pension over and in the short term, what do I gain out of it?
When these lines are used in Court, such as "the cop guessed"
or "the cop made it all up" or "the radar must be wrong", the
Magistrates think along the same lines as me. "Why would
the Police bother to do this?"

Spooky

 

In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 09 Dec 2004 02:33:46 GMT

I once met a weirdo who has been known to ride a Z50 to work. a legal,
complianced registered one.

It was only 50cc, the barrel said so, and as it was pre 86 the Yoshi
carbon pipe didn't even need a sticker....

So they are out there....

Zebee

 

Didn't they teach you punctuation in school?

I think you just reinforced that you have egg on your face!

Spooky

 

And that's precisely where the system goes all pear shaped.
Why would someone bother to risk their pension checking on databases
for information.
Or taking a bribe.
Or turning a blind eye to crime to assist someone capable of providing
favour or whatever kind at later time.

It's all the SAME THING.
Just like the stupid arbitrary speed limits - the degree doesn't seem
to matter - just the offence. Your rules, OK?


The magistrate bless its little cotton socks would be well advised to
ask that question AS WELL AS, say, Why wouldn't a turdcop take
advantage of those that aren't at any time to fit someone up?

That's the jobbie of the Magistrate.

Evidently it's not being done properly.

 

Do you ever proof read the dribble that you write?
You wouldn't think so.

Spooky

 

Yes, but I believe your question was if 30 watts would move you. My answer
is, at 6 volts - no, at 240 volts - it will certainly make you jump.

Theo

 

It can't do that unless it's spinning faster, can it? Seems to me you can
get as much voltage as you want but the power will, at best, stay the same.
Because all the electrical energy comes from the rotating armature, if you
keep the rotational speed the same, the power output can't go up.

 

Unless there's a timestamp for the speed and current time also
visible in the display there's little point. If a cop wants to be
dishonest, he need only clock one vehicle going too fast every
couple of hours and use that reading to "prove" to the driver that
there was an offence.

Indeed. And speed (nor velocity) cannot by definition, be measured
instantaneously; at least according to Newtonian physics.

The "radar" isn't Radar anyway; it's merely a Doppler-shift
measuring device.