A positive election post

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by stephen.packer, May 7, 2010.

  1. stephen.packer

    Krusty Guest

    Christ I hope so. If he falls for Brown's "we'll hold a PR referendum
    immediately" bullshit again I'll scream. Hope he does it quickly too to
    stop the FTSE graph looking like a rollercoaster (shoots down at
    opening, back up after Clegg's speech, back down again after Brown's
    speech, back up again after Cameron's speech).
     
    Krusty, May 7, 2010
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  2. stephen.packer

    prawn Guest

    I think not. Electoral reform is being swept under the carpet ^W^W^W^W
    going to a committee of inquiry.
     
    prawn, May 7, 2010
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  3. stephen.packer

    ogden Guest

    I suspect not. Cameron just made it clear that immigration isn't up for
    discussion, nor is trident, and the electoral reform issue will be yet
    another review a la Jenkins. Ming didn't seem particularly impressed
    when interviewed just now.
     
    ogden, May 7, 2010
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  4. stephen.packer

    Krusty Guest

    Depends who's making it & how. E.g. foreign speculators trashing the
    pound isn't a good thing.
     
    Krusty, May 7, 2010
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  5. stephen.packer

    Hog Guest

    I thought Trident a stupid idea but having heard alternative arguments maybe
    not. So scrap some other part of the military budget and furriner aid to
    pay for it.
     
    Hog, May 7, 2010
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  6. Heh, I've just read a guy accusing Apple of delibereately witholding
    the GBP and EUR pricing for the iPad to see what the outcome of the UK
    election would be, and that the dipping markets were an indicator of
    this.

    *riiiiiight*.
     
    doetnietcomputeren, May 7, 2010
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  7. stephen.packer

    ogden Guest

    I understand that Cameron was hamstrung on his offer by the shadow
    cabinet, who squashed any idea of further compromise.
     
    ogden, May 7, 2010
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  8. Not unlike the split in the last few Dutch elections, which have led to
    coalition governments.

    Next election is June 9th, to re-establish government after the recent
    collapse.
     
    doetnietcomputeren, May 7, 2010
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  9. stephen.packer

    ogden Guest

    I can't see the LD membership stomaching the compromise either tbh. It'd
    be nothing short of a betrayal.
     
    ogden, May 7, 2010
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  10. stephen.packer

    Krusty Guest

    They have (or at least should have) bigger concerns, but today's
    sterling drops are mainly down to uncertainty over the election result.
     
    Krusty, May 7, 2010
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  11. stephen.packer

    Hog Guest

    The guy I'm buying a house tells me he scored 10k this morning betting on
    this.
    Allright for some.
     
    Hog, May 7, 2010
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  12. stephen.packer

    Krusty Guest

    Less of a betrayal than putting Labour back in though surely? If the
    LDs are that much in favour of PR, supporting a party that got 2
    million fewer votes than another would seem to be a tad hypocritical.
     
    Krusty, May 7, 2010
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  13. stephen.packer

    Hog Guest

    I shall watch A Very British Coup tonight. It just finished downloading.
     
    Hog, May 7, 2010
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  14. stephen.packer

    ogden Guest

    Labour and Lib Dems have far more in common than Conservatives and Lib
    Dems. The offer from Cameron basically says "we have a few things in
    common, so if you agree to abandon your core principles we can work
    together". The offer from Brown says "we'll give you what you want".

    My guess would be LDs rebuff Tory offer, negotiate with Labour, accept
    offer of electoral reform but insist on change of leadership. I'd find
    that almost acceptable, frankly, the LDs would be a moderating presence
    in an otherwise Labour cabinet, and best of all it'd send the Tories
    batshit crazy.
     
    ogden, May 7, 2010
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  15. stephen.packer

    Adrian Guest

    Speak for yourself. I sit somewhere half-and-half between LD & Tory, with
    very little in common with Labour.
     
    Adrian, May 7, 2010
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  16. stephen.packer

    Jim Guest

    The answer to Cameron saying "Gordon Brown has never won an election as
    leader" is "neither have you".
     
    Jim, May 7, 2010
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  17. stephen.packer

    Krusty Guest

    You can't possibly know that. Some/many/most LD voters may have voted
    that way because they wanted the policies that most closely match the
    Tories, not the ones that match Labour.
     
    Krusty, May 7, 2010
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  18. stephen.packer

    Pip Guest

    Reverting to type, I see, Monsieur The Cow.
     
    Pip, May 7, 2010
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  19. stephen.packer

    Pip Guest

    Back to the old LibLab pact then, what?
     
    Pip, May 7, 2010
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  20. stephen.packer

    Krusty Guest

    But they'd be insane to believe Labour will do what they say,
    especially after the '97 PR referendum promise that never happened. At
    least the Tories are being honest about it.
     
    Krusty, May 7, 2010
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