A season like this only comes along once in 20 years (semi-spoiler)

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Racing' started by Champ, Jun 14, 2009.

  1. Champ

    Champ Guest

    Just watched the MotoGP from Catalunya. As well as some superb racing
    at the front, with the last couple of laps being as good as I can
    recall in the top class, we now have the three contenders equal on the
    same number of points, after 6 rounds.

    The last time I recall three riders racing at the front for the
    championship at this level, it was Lawson, Rainey and Schwantz, in
    1989.
     
    Champ, Jun 14, 2009
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    pablo Guest

    I thoroughly agree - the Rossi-Lorenzo duel was a very memorable one.
    The last 3 rounds were utter insanity. Clearly Yamaha has no peck
    order in there, damn, I think they touched each other at least 3 times
    on the last 2 laps. Talk about riding hard. Damn. Beautiful race at
    the front. And the good news is, 3 guys at the front within a very few
    points? And no clear peck order behind, and you know it is important
    to those guys to state their claim behind those who enjoy full 100%
    factory support.

    It'll be interesting to see how the rest of the season pans out, and
    if there'll be a circuit where the Yam, Duc and Honda strengths
    coincide, and all of a sudden we have a group of 3-4 riders for the
    win - I think it will happen and provide an amazing spectacle before
    the season is over. There'll also be a major tumble at the front with
    all this hard riding going on - no way these guys can get away with
    this every race, at some point they'll put each other down, so let's
    just hope no one gets hurt as things heat up in this amazingly close
    race to the 2009 title.

    More stuff to watch out for - Dovizioso making progress. Pedrosa's
    approach ain't cutting it, and it is becoming apparent. The peck order
    in Honda is being re-established with every race, too. I think by the
    end of the year Pedrosa will increasingly look old guard. And wait
    until some of these very aggressive 250 guys make it up. There are
    several guys in the grid looking for replacement with younger riders
    right now.

    Gibernau - man, this is your home circuit. Ouch. It truly was an ill-
    advised comeback, or at least it seems thus far. Hayden - looking a
    tad better now on race day. But knowing how patient Ducati was with
    Melandri (who despite the vicious coverage seemed to be doing better
    than Hayden) he has to be thinkng about where he'll ride next year
    now. It now seems a very ill-advised move, considering he tested the
    bike before making a decision. Edwards can't be feeling to great about
    what Lorenzo is doing of that second spot in Yamaha that supposedly
    never got any support from anyone because Rossi hogs all the
    engineering and team support...

    Also interesting to see that, after looking good 2 weeks ago,
    melandri's team receded into the spot they would seem to logically
    belong.
     
    pablo, Jun 15, 2009
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    Julian Bond Guest

    Here's a solution to the Hayden problem. Swap Hayden and Toseland. It
    keeps the American, Brit and two ex SB riders in the paddock. Hayden
    gets a ride he could do something with, Toseland gets one last chance
    for a factory that has already brought him one championship. (except
    they fired him...)
    So definitely nothing to do with the new engine parts then?

    Note that Stoner was crocked with man-flu. And the Ducati could only
    just live with the Yamahas on the straight.

    And Lorenzo learnt a valuable lesson that he won't ever forget; Don't
    leave the door open for Rossi on the last corner. It's a lesson
    Gibernau, Melandri, Biaggi and many others won't ever forget either.
     
    Julian Bond, Jun 15, 2009
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    Switters Guest

    After the 125 and 250 races, I couldn't stand any more of that Carlton
    Kirby. It comes to something when the Charlie Cox on the BBC is a more
    preferable alternative.
     
    Switters, Jun 15, 2009
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    sturd Guest

    Mark N says:
    Didn't seem to have much trouble yesterday. "Technique" he called it.

    We usually called it racing. Pretty damn good racing too.


    Go fast. Take chances.
    Mike S.
     
    sturd, Jun 15, 2009
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  6. Champ

    Julian Bond Guest

    I've taken to watching the TV on Eurosport and then BBC with the
    internet commentary from the MotoGP site. Which is ok if you're watching
    everything live. But then yesterday, I needed to record the 125 and 250
    and Eurosport-Virgin managed to screw up and couldn't decide between
    them what was actually being shown on British Europsort 1 and 2. So I
    ended up watching the replay on the red button only to find the same
    MotoGP commentators. Except of course that you can't use Virgin+ to
    record off the red button or use the fast forward or replay.

    Grrr... Maybe next year, Dorna will sort out the French and German TV
    companies and we can just go back to Eurosport-Moody-Ryder-Mamola.
     
    Julian Bond, Jun 15, 2009
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  7. Champ

    Switters Guest

    Dunno who screwed up for you, but which ever channel it was on (I forget
    now), that's what Eurosport had previously scheduled, so that's what I
    recorded correctly.
    Ah, that's worth knowing.
    I can with Freeview :)
    Mugello wasn't bad when Ryder kept that Kirby in check, but James Haydon
    just doesn't have the presence or confidence or something.

    One of my peevs with Kirby is that he claims to speak/understand
    Spanish, yet he can't pronounce any of the names properly.
     
    Switters, Jun 15, 2009
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    Dirt Guest

    In response to several comments about the Ducati's top speed deficit,
    I think it's the new electronics package. I've read that it's better
    to ride, but more intrusive and that it pays a penalty in fuel economy
    as a result. I suspect the Ducati could make the same power as ever
    but they had to dial it back to make race distance on the allotted
    fuel.

    -Dirt-

    PS: Mark, does everything have to be a conspiracy? I always enjoy
    your posts, but damn, they're a real wet blanket on the weekend
    sometimes.
     
    Dirt, Jun 15, 2009
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  9. Champ

    Mr. Marmite Guest

    You can also do this with the Eurosport internet stream.
    Or maybe Burnicle will put his oar in...
     
    Mr. Marmite, Jun 16, 2009
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  10. Champ

    Chris Paine Guest

    I'm so glad I don't live in your world.
     
    Chris Paine, Jun 17, 2009
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  11. Champ

    Henry Guest

    H1N1 hits ?
     
    Henry, Jun 19, 2009
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