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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Brian, Oct 2, 2004.

  1. Brian

    platypus Guest

    platypus, Oct 7, 2004
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  2. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
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    Mind you, it's nice to have standards, but those standards are only of
    use for one generation at a time, in order for change and evolution to
    take place. Poisonally, I see no point in speaking Chaucerian English,
    but hey, if everybody was doing it, that's what I'd be doing too.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 7, 2004
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  3. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember Dave Swindell
    Curiously, there's a synonymous usage of 'Jeep' for any 4WD vehicle here
    in Ireland. I found it odd at first, since I always referred to
    individual vehicles by their makers' names and also 'Jeep' itself as a
    manufacturer's name was originally a bastardisation of 'GP' for General
    Purpose' vehicle.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 7, 2004
  4. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    Nah, you could thumb wrestle about it.

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    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 7, 2004
  5. Brian

    Preston Kemp Guest

    Nearly, but not quite. Jeep was derived from the proununciation of GP,
    but GP didn't mean General Purpose - it was an internal model
    designation used by Ford. The G means Government, the P relates to the
    wheelbase (80").
     
    Preston Kemp, Oct 7, 2004
  6. Why are all your insults predicated on the level of someone's
    intelligence? People are "thick" or "cretins" or some other poor
    relation in your responses. Your worst venom is reserved for people who
    you consider to be spectacularly inferior in the brains department to, I
    assume, you.

    Why is this form of comparator so important to you? What happened to
    you to make your value system so centred around this measure?
     
    Paul Corfield, Oct 7, 2004
  7. Brian

    Lozzo Guest

    says...
    ......or the first choice of the sensible.
     
    Lozzo, Oct 7, 2004
  8. Brian

    Eiron Guest

    No, I'll apologise instead.
    On a second reading, Mr. Swindell's post makes sense.

    No more logic before the first coffee and fag of the day in future.
     
    Eiron, Oct 7, 2004
  9. Brian

    Porl Guest

    Really? I love it.
     
    Porl, Oct 7, 2004
  10. Brian

    Lozzo Guest

    Dr Ivan D. Reid says...
    I've been like that since I dropped the roller shutter door on my head
    earlier this year. I really can't drink much at all any more.
     
    Lozzo, Oct 7, 2004
  11. des wrote
    So remind me again why it is you hang round ukrm, other than to quote
    out of context, of course?
     
    steve auvache, Oct 7, 2004
  12. Brian

    tallbloke Guest

    Ah Des replied to one of my posts.


    Finally passing comment when he won't get a direct response. The last refuge
    of the wanker.

    Bye for now Des.
     
    tallbloke, Oct 7, 2004
  13. Simian wrote
    Neither of which should be new concepts to anybody.
     
    steve auvache, Oct 7, 2004
  14. why?
     
    Paul Corfield, Oct 7, 2004
  15. Brian

    gomez Guest

    I was thinking of possibly 'you-simich'
     
    gomez, Oct 7, 2004
  16. Brian

    Lady Nina Guest

    And I bet you've forgotten to follow up the hospital appointment.
     
    Lady Nina, Oct 8, 2004
  17. Brian

    tallbloke Guest

    What's all this, games in Gematria?
     
    tallbloke, Oct 8, 2004
  18. I'm glad that you accept that pronounceability is a necessary part of
    the definition, but who said it was sufficient? Not I, nor anybody else
    in this discussion.

    Or are you saying that HSBC, BBC, KLM etc are *words*, and that
    something "formed from the initial letters or syllables of other words"
    is not an abbreviation.

    BBC, AIDS, PC, LASER, MRBA, RoSPA, NSPCC all share a common
    characteristic in that they are abbreviations (shortenings) of phrases
    formed by taking the initial letters/syllables of (the) constituent
    words of the phrases (if you don't like calling them abbreviations let's
    use the other recently coined, and rather yucky, term "initialism").
    They are all collections of symbols or syllables, but not all of them
    are "words", they are expressed in the language concerned in obviously
    different ways, and somebody in the past few decades decided that this
    difference was enough to encapsulate it in a word, and "acronym" was
    born.

    To use "acronym" to describe a set of symbols that is *not*
    used/expressed/pronounced as a word flies in the face of the intentions
    of the coiner(s) of the word. Pronounceability is, as you yourself
    accept, most certainly a necessary aspect of the definition, the only
    bit I add myself is that it should be commonly accepted in the language
    population, so although USA and HIV follow the definition of acronym on
    the face of it, they are customarily expressed simply by spelling out
    the individual letters, something that nobody does with a "word" in the
    normal state of affairs. I am happy to be called wrong in this respect,
    but somebody must then invent a word that expresses a group of vocable
    units (a word) that the language community concerned habitually doesn't
    voc :)

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    Dave Swindell, Oct 8, 2004
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    Ben Guest

    My preference is for "squirrel".
     
    Ben, Oct 8, 2004
  20. Brian

    Ace Guest

    Oi! That was my idea, you dirty plagiarist!
     
    Ace, Oct 8, 2004
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