ABS or fibreglass helmets?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Stuart Douglas, Feb 6, 2009.

  1. Are fiberglass or carbon fibre helmets worth paying the hugh extra for as
    oppossed to ABS/plastic, after all they all have to pass the Euro or ACU
    standards? and do a good job if needed, So do you really get that much more
    protection or are you just paying for the brand and a few extra bits of
    styling?

    Does anyone have any experience of Held Helmets & clothing?
     
    Stuart Douglas, Feb 6, 2009
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  2. Stuart Douglas

    Beav Guest

    Low weight is one of the reasons I'll be geting a carbon lid this year.

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    Beav, Feb 6, 2009
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  3. Stuart Douglas

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    If you happen to hit a points thing with your crash lid, you'll be glad
    of a polycarbonate one apparently[1]. These days, due to better
    materials, some manufacturers are getting 5 year[2] lives out of them too.

    [1] So I read somewhere, in some study.
    [2] Someone I knew got very angry with me telling him this.. there again
    he had a vested interest in selling Shoei composite lids and didn't want
    people finding out for some reason.
     
    Muck, Feb 6, 2009
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  4. Stuart Douglas

    Beav Guest

    I'll have to do some research on that coz I've never been overly impressed
    with polycarb for anything. It doesn't like paint, it ages under UV light
    (so I'm told), so time to ge my investigating feet on.
    A pal just won a raffle and got a new Arai helmet which retails for
    (reputedly) 650 squid. The new Kwak colour scheme with the "tiger slashes"
    or summat. Went to pick it up on Tuesday or Wednesday and binned his bike on
    the way back home breaking his wrist, but the helmet (still in its box)
    survived unscathed.

    Pity it's too big for me.

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    Beav, Feb 6, 2009
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  5. Stuart Douglas

    Lozzo Guest

    Polycarb helmets tend to be on the budget side of things, and as such
    the inner lining materials also tend to be on the budget side of
    things. While they may well pass and exceed the safety requirements,
    the materials they are made from aren't usually built to last. You'll
    find cheaply made vents, inferior quality inner material and visor
    mechs that fly apart in 6 months time.

    A fibreglass lid is usually better built using far more robust liner
    material and with more thought to longevity.

    I haven't seen their helmets, but their clothing is second to none,
    especially their range of gloves. I have 3 pairs of Held gloves and one
    of their jackets, I'm really happy with all of it.



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    Lozzo, Feb 7, 2009
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  6. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Lozzo
    What he said.

    Good gloves. *Good* gloves.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Feb 7, 2009
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  7. Stuart Douglas

    Muck Guest

    I guess the manufacturers have been busy in recent years. Someone I used
    to know that worked for a bike shop in the clothing department was
    adamant about the 3 year life. All I wanted to do was investigate this,
    that's when I found out about the leaps in materials / chemical
    engineering with polycarbonate.
     
    Muck, Feb 7, 2009
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  8. Stuart Douglas

    Muck Guest

    That's a good point, and 100% correct. I'd have thought that the 5 year
    polycarb lids would be better build than the 3 year life ones.
     
    Muck, Feb 7, 2009
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  9. Kiwi was producing polycarb helmets with perfectly compatible paint, oh,
    more than 20 years ago. I visited the factory. A lot of the bad name
    that polycarb has got is due to crap plastic helmets made in the 1970s.
    Both the material and the paint has come a long way since.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 7, 2009
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  10. Stuart Douglas

    Beav Guest

    Well thanks for the update Muck. I must admit though, the carbon lid
    Christofire bought was as light as a feather and that really appeals.


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    Beav, Feb 7, 2009
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  11. Stuart Douglas

    Beav Guest

    I've still got a raft of Kiwi polycarb paint too (sat in a flight case doing
    bugger all), but the colours were limited. And quite expensive too.
    I'd go along with that, and with using the wrong type of paint on a polycarb
    lid. That WILL cause problems, one of them being only "proper" polycarb
    paint sticks to it for any length of time.
    It's been a long time since I had much to do with either, and like most
    things, improvments happen along so I'm not surprised. What sort of weights
    are good poly lids coming in at these days, any idea?

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    Beav, Feb 7, 2009
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  12. Lighter than gf, still, I think. Not sure, though.

    I've mentioned this before, but....

    In the mid-1980s I used to go and visit Top Tek Helmets in Stranraer
    quite a bit.

    The roof of their main factory building was studded with helmet shells,
    some of which had been there for some time. They used to fasten them to
    the roof and just leave them, if necessary for years, and monitor how
    weather and sunlight degraded them, or not.

    They made both plastic and gf, I remember.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 7, 2009
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