Accident damage

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Jimi, Feb 3, 2005.

  1. Jimi

    Jimi Guest

    Looking for some advice here.

    Monday morning going to work, bike hits thick diesel oil all over the
    freeway, leading to the first bit of dynamic dismounting. I've performed in
    25 years. Fortunately, there were no "safety" barriers around, so injuries
    are minor. My question is, have I got a claim against vicroads, or the TAC,
    or anybody else for the damage to the bike and gear?

    TIA

    Jimi
     
    Jimi, Feb 3, 2005
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  2. Jimi

    JustAL Guest

    They'll ask you to prove who left it there then take it up with that party.

    JustAL
     
    JustAL, Feb 3, 2005
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  3. In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:43:35 +1100
    The only person you can claim against is whoever dropped the diesel.

    If you don't know who that is, you are out of luck.

    If you can show that whoever is responsible for the good condition of
    that road knew of the hazard but didn't mark it then you might have a
    case against them for negligence. Might.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Feb 3, 2005
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  4. That's what happened with a friend of mine. Dropped his bike on a sand
    spill. Asked his lawyer to investigate. Lawyer found that the relevant
    authorities had known about it for 2 full work days. Recieved a nice
    cheque in the mail from said authorities for quoted repair cost.

    Morgan Vening
    - It's stuff like the above, that I have comprehensive.
     
    Morgan Vening, Feb 3, 2005
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    peter Guest

    Is diesel, oil on the road happen very much?

    I've seen oil on the road but nothing bigger that a small pool at the lights
    in my GRAND 4 years on road riding.
     
    peter, Feb 3, 2005
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    sharkey Guest

    Yeah, I've seen it a couple of times, and come pretty close to
    falling off both times. Both times managed to keep it in a
    straight line and just roll through it.

    -----sharks (oh, three times if you count the Volvo)
     
    sharkey, Feb 3, 2005
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    IK Guest

    It only needs to happen once...
     
    IK, Feb 3, 2005
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    John Littler Guest


    I've only ever hit diesel once and petrol once. The petrol was
    surprisingly OK, just like hitting a puddle (which is what I thought it
    was until I smelt it on me from the splash). Diesel was as slippery as
    ^%$&, fortunately going in a straight line.

    JL
     
    John Littler, Feb 3, 2005
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    Johnnie5 Guest

    Johnnie5, Feb 3, 2005
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    Conehead Guest

    In Tasmania, a vehicle never has to get a roadworthy certificate as long as
    its rego never lapses. The result of this is the oldest car fleet in
    Australia by a long way, and a plethora of old shitboxes that spew fumes,
    leak oil, have no suspension, and metal-on-metal brakes.

    Because the majority of cars are never serviced properly, after every large
    bump or dip in the road , the oil that has seeped out of the engine/gearbox
    drops and adds to the nice greasy slick that spreads from the middle of the
    lane into the wheel-tracks when it rains. Much the same effect was very
    noticeable in Adelaide at major intersections where the rustbuckets had to
    wait for a while.

    The "Road Safety" authorities in Tasmania believe that it's an issue which
    has no workable solution. For a while I was letting the department know of
    such situations, but the 'duh' reactions eventually got the better of me and
    I gave up.
     
    Conehead, Feb 3, 2005
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  11. Jimi

    Conehead Guest

    as what?
     
    Conehead, Feb 3, 2005
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  12. Jimi

    Biggus... Guest

    In Tasmania, a vehicle never has to get a roadworthy certificate as long as its rego never lapses.

    Isnt Qld the same?
     
    Biggus..., Feb 3, 2005
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  13. Jimi

    Biggus... Guest

    rules as tasmania? a vehicle never has to get a roadworthy certificate
    as long as its rego never lapses.
     
    Biggus..., Feb 3, 2005
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  14. Jimi

    GB Guest


    That's one way of looking at it. Another is that, just before
    every 'nice greasy slick', there's a bump.

    It's all about attitude.

    G
     
    GB, Feb 3, 2005
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    No testing in WA either. I don't have a problem with that. From living in
    and talking to people in Sydney, the whole annual test thing is a scam,
    adding another $100-$200 to the cost of running a vehicle for no public
    safety gain. According to something I read many years ago, mechanical
    failure is an insignificant factor in accidents. Mostly it is the loose nut
    behind the wheel.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Feb 4, 2005
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  16. Jimi

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    No, QLD is further North.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Feb 4, 2005
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  17. Jimi

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    The bump would be about altitude.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Feb 4, 2005
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  18. Not quite that bad, the inspection for a bike is only $17-ish, and I
    think cars are a little higer, somewhere round $25...

    big
     
    Iain Chalmers, Feb 4, 2005
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  19. In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:09:26 +0800
    It gets suggested in SA now and then, and shouted down.

    It is prettt much a scam, and the shops don't like it because it takes a
    mechanic time to do, that isn't paid for. IF they usually charge out at
    $50-60, they get less than half that.

    A minor leak won't be found at a rego inspection and if it is probably
    won't mean the vehicle's knocked back, and very few vehicles have
    major leaks. Most diesel spills appear to be from overfilling not
    rego-inspection-findable leaks.

    Way back when my Guzzi had a gearbox seal go so it was definitely
    leaking quite a bit of gearbox oil, it passed rego fine. Just needed to
    be cleaned before I took it in.



    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Feb 4, 2005
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    Gary Woodman Guest

    It's $33 in the ACT (plus parts and labour, if any).

    Gary

    --

    Mark Latham, former Leader of the Alternative Liberal Party: "My
    message
    to the business community is that Labor is pro-growth and
    pro-productivity."
     
    Gary Woodman, Feb 4, 2005
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