Advice Please: Direct Access Test this coming Monday

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by joe, May 19, 2006.

  1. joe

    joe Guest


    I have my das test this monday morning, and am absolutely plopping it.

    My experience of riding so far:
    1. CBT (auto)
    2. Two years on a Cub 90 (40 mins/day in London)
    3. CBT (gears)
    4. Two day 125 road rider course (1st day last week, 2nd day Saturday
    5. One day 500 das course (Sunday)
    then...test Monday morning at 11 ish so probably an hour's practice Monday

    My fears:
    1. I did my car licence up north in a town without roundabouts. It was hell
    with the examiners being hard on exact distances when reversing, hill starts
    had to be perfect etc.
    2. Is the bike test the same sort of thing? As in really really hard and
    exacting to the millimetre?
    3. Because my Cub 90 is not exactly built for speed or manoevrability, I am
    not exactly quick round roundabouts.
    4. Lots more I won't bore you with :)

    I would appreciate any tips for the test you can give me.

    When all said and done though, I fully understand I shouldn't get a licence
    unless safe and effective as a rider, and am prepared to accept a fail in
    good spirit should it happen.

    Anyone know the pass rate?

    I am doing it in SE London by the way.


    joe, May 19, 2006
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  2. joe

    joe Guest


    Forgot to say I am 33 yrs old, and have been driving a heck of a lot since
    age 17.
    joe, May 19, 2006
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    Cab Guest

    AOL. Don't crash.
    Cab, May 19, 2006
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    Cane Guest

    Have you thought about what you're going to wear?
    Cane, May 19, 2006
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    gazzafield Guest


    Just like the car test it doesn't matter if you stall doing the emergency
    stop. As long as you stop in a good reasonable time.
    gazzafield, May 19, 2006
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    Ben Guest

    Hmm, not sure I believe that. My wife passed her car test in January
    and was tol dby her instructor that should could fail by stalling on
    the emergency stop because it showed failure to properly control the

    Same as when I took my test 10 years ago.

    Skidding the back wheel was also a potential failure on my bike test.
    Ben, May 19, 2006
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    Tim Gordon Guest

    Good luck on Monday. I did mine two years ago but hadn't previously done
    much riding at all on the road. I suspect that the fact that you have
    ridden may count against you in some ways as you may have picked up some
    habits that you shouldn't.

    So, try and ride exactly as the instructor has taught you but relax and
    enjoy it. Ride with confidence and you should pass - I get the feeling that
    the examiners aren't looking to fail people, if you look like you know what
    your doing and aren't going to be a danger to yourself or others then
    there's no reason to fail you.

    Tim Gordon, May 19, 2006
  8. joe wrote
    No matter how tempted you are, do not make the internationally
    recognised signal for "I am about to pull a wheelie" on your test. They
    frown on you making signals and then not making the manouveur and as
    they specifically don't take you past the local sixth form girls college
    because of complaints from fundamental religious groups you won't be
    pulling many wheelies. Overtaking on the bypass excepted of course.
    steve auvache, May 19, 2006
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    Dan L Guest

    Just go for it and enjoy yourself, otherwise you'll be a nervous wreck.

    How are your ridden U Turns?

    Gool luck and DFC

    Dan L (Oldbloke)

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    Dan L, May 19, 2006
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    zymurgy Guest

    Definitely, my instructor told me that by and large, you'll fail the
    car test if you endanger others, but you will fail your bike test if
    you endanger yourself.

    I left an indicator on going past a turn [1], and he failed me



    [1] Easy to do when you're a car driver, with the autocancelling ...
    zymurgy, May 19, 2006
  11. Some nameless **** wrote
    I have had self cancellers on a bike, don't like them. I do miss some
    of the extras that that all singing all dancing approved alarm thingy
    that is on my Red GS though. I am a bugger for not turning off me
    indicators, mainly cos I rarely use them but that really, really
    annoying fucking beep beep beep..... is a dead 'andy reminder. I miss
    steve auvache, May 19, 2006
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    In my day (pre CBT by .... well you work it out) I was told that it was
    no problem if you stalled, so long as you didn't skid and then kept your
    cool when starting up and moving off again. This was in the pre-electric
    start era and a Matchless G2 could be a recalcitrant little barsteward
    when hot. Luckily when the examiner leapt out waving his clipboard
    (those were the days) I managed OK and remembered my 'life saver' before
    starting off again.


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    Pete Fisher, May 19, 2006
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    Moon Badger Guest

    Its the same now. If you stall, you'll get a minor mark. If you lock up and
    release/reapply and don't howl it to a stop, you'll get a minor. If you
    don't check both blindspots before either waddling the bike to the kerb or
    setting off, you'll fail.
    Moon Badger, May 19, 2006
  14. joe

    Moon Badger Guest

    Contrary to popular opinion, examiners are not ogres, in the main. Most do
    not set out to fail you.

    They look for a competant, confident, defensive and assertive rider.

    The question they ask is 'is this person going to twat themselves or others
    if I give them a licence?'

    Know the answers to the maintenance questions.
    Wear bike gear or good alternatives. First impressions can count.
    Don't be a smart arse.
    Have your docs ready.
    Don't assume your instructor is wrong and you cannot do too many lifesavers.
    You can. Unnecessary lifesavers can show a lack of planning and awareness,
    plus, WTF are you doing them?
    U-turns -are- easy.
    Treat the rear brake pedal with caution during the emergency stop. You must
    use it, but on a disc rear, imagine your right bollock has been
    transplanted under your right foot. Now how much pressure are you going to
    use?. Smooth and progressive on the front and a bit of rear. Clutch in at
    the last second. At walking pace, kick your left foot out in preperation
    for stopping.
    Be smooth. Smooth as a pair of tits coated in margarine.
    If you make a mistake, get over it.

    It really doesn't matter if you fail first time. Its a dry run. Next time
    its real.
    65% ish I think. 33 out of 41 of my riders have passed first time this year.
    Those that failed, failed due to bottling it on test day and made silly
    mistakes that they failed to make during training, including too many/too
    few/ill timed/missing lifesavers and leaving indicators running.
    Moon Badger, May 19, 2006
  15. joe

    joe Guest

    I have the gear I use for my scooter commute:

    Proper armoured gloves, proper armoured jacket, kevlar reinforced jeans,
    stout military boots, hi-vis from the bike school, and my helmet.

    Is that ok?

    joe, May 19, 2006
  16. joe

    Lozzo Guest

    joe said...
    You forgot the condom, you might get a little over-excited if you pass.
    Lozzo, May 19, 2006
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    Me here Guest

    Condom is useful, Lozzo wears his all the time these days.
    Almost as good as a colostomy bag
    Me here, May 20, 2006
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    Monkey Guest

    Don't lock up your front wheel and come this -><- close to dropping the
    bike, while practising your emergency stops before the test. It does nothing
    for your nerves - trust me on this.

    Plenty of good advice from others in this thread, and I'd add-in thinking
    about your road positioning - I've known someone fail for sticking rigidly
    to the centre of the lane all the time, and I got marked-down for not moving
    around enough to avoid obstacles, parked cars etc. The examiner wants to see
    you modifying your lane positioning based on traffic conditions. You've got
    a reasonable amount of biking behind you already, so you should be OK, but
    it's an easy trap for people who normally drive cars to fall into.
    Monkey, May 20, 2006
  19. joe

    joe Guest

    Many thanks for the tips Monkey.

    joe, May 20, 2006
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