Affordable housing

A basically good idea spoiled by lots of wank anti personal transport
stuff

 

No, they just went a bit daft

Mildly silly

 

When prices were mad, a year or two ago, land got to around £1M per acre for
commercial development. You can reasonably expect 12 to 15 dwellings per
acre at current densities. Around that time, the average house price was
nudging on to £190k. I would suspect build costs are fairly similar to land
costs. Certainly not tiny in comparison to the cost of land.

 

Like I said...

It all depends if demolition + groundworks + shell - stripout = <13% of
the final development cost or not...

Well, again, the council exception above applies. But if the sink area is
being redeveloped wholesale, the scrotes who are currently making it a no-
go area would presumably be being rehoused somewhere else...?

Gotta admit, I completely fail to understand the psychology of those
types. They moan because they live in a shithole area - but who made it a
shithole? They did. Any and every attempt to improve the area gets
trashed. By who? Them.

 

Oh ****, we're of one mind on this, who should be more worried. On the
whole public transport doesn't work for what *I* need.

 

But when I hear people claiming that affordable housing is needed it's
because there is *nothing* that those that are trying to get on the
ladder can afford. It's not that there is nothing available, just that
the market is too high.

All the new build stuff I've looked at, I would hate to live in. Not
least cos of the parking.

Pretty sure we'll build our last house.


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Most of them, yes. Some of them have been pretty pants, TBH.

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Yes, *very* tempting. There is a group of them nearish here. Sadly
behind a 12 foot wall, so it's not easy to see.

They are not actually that expensive if you compare them to a similar
sized (in terms of rooms) trad build.

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How would you even go about building houses that will sell on the open
market for <waves finger> £85k?[1] That's what I really can't figure, I
suppose.

And, if the house was really even slightly comparable to a 'normal' 2
bed house (like ours) then why won't it sell for ~£160k

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[1] 3x average income plus £10k deposit.

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All of them that start off with "X has decided to project manage the
build themselves" or "X has decided not to use an architect"
invariably end up shit.

And some of them are definitely "look how much money I have!".

But there is to odd gem, and that Huffhaus was one of them.

 

I don't believe that the *cost* of the build has any but a passing
resemblance to the market value of the finished property. ISTBC of course.

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You stack them on top of each other and call them flats. I haven't lived
in a house in over a decade.

 

Not all of them.

I thought the long, narrow one in Peckham was a work of genius.

 

No, I'd disagree with that.

Indeed. The converted water treatment plant was another.

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Ahh. Not much good for village life, but seems to work in the cities.

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Was that the one that they referred to as the box of chocolates, or
something? Big retractable glass roof?

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OK, swhat I figured. So why can't other people work this out?

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Not sure about the name, but that's the one.

http://www.channel4.com/4homes/on-tv/grand-designs/episode-
guides/peckham-the-space-pod-08-06-11_p_1.html

On a related note, the Huf House episode:

http://www.channel4.com/4homes/on-tv/grand-designs/episode-
guides/walton-huf-haus-revisited-08-06-04_p_1.html

 

Because most people are thick.

 

That's up the road from me. It's a very ugly building in real life, compared
to how it looked on grand designs.