Alright, alright, alright, our kid!

Well the blade's up on Ebay (again) and it's looking ok at £3,100 with
5 days to go. I've had a couple of "What price if I collect it this
week" enquiries and have mailed them back with a sensible price.

I had a call on my mobile from one of them today asking if I can be
around on Thurs evening as he'd like to come from Liverpool to view it.
He says he's bringing the full asking price in cash with the intention
of buying it.

Hmm. Now I feel slightly guilty because I'm feeling suspicious and I
have no rational reason to be. The guilt is because I can't help
thinking that it's predjudice on my part that leads me to suspect him
based on his liverpool accent, which is something of a shameful
admission.

I guess the point of the post is to ask what scams I should be wary of?
Of course funny money is one and besides holding the notes to the
light, what else can I do to check them?

 

Calm down, calm down.

 

Don't feel guilty. I'd feel the same. He's a scouse dole monkey with the
better part of 4k in cash? **** off, he's just printed them.

Get a mate in the know [copper] to be there.

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Have some real notes of your own to compare agasinst.

Firstly compare the size of the notes...

Then look at the watermark, the hologram (also note the little numbers
showing the value of the note around it's outside edge), and pay
attention to the slightly textured bank of england text at the top, it
shouldn't smudge if you run your finger over it.

You should also see the green to red fade on the left hand set of
numbers, if they're forged notes it's possible you'd see repeated
numbers in a thick wedge of notes.

HTH

 

dey doo doo dat do, dont dey do?

 

Do a google for when Darsy sold his RGS. The situation is almost identical
and he had exactly the same concerns.

 

Thanks mate, some handy tips there.

 

http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/counterfeit.htm

HTH, and good luck.

 

I typed his email addy into Google and tracked down a couple of online
profiles for various chat forums. He gives his profession as student /
doorman.

Not sure I know anyone of that description well enough to impose.

 

x-no-archive: yes

The other links near that page are good, too...

....a thought: having that amount of cash in/near the house might tempt
some, if they knew about it - how about making it clear any cash will be
taken to some "other secure location" ??

 

I guess the point of the post is to ask what scams I should be wary
Ask for it in pound coins.

 

Abso wrote:. . .

One of the scams I heard of (and yes, I am scouse) was the prospective
buyer turning up on a slightly smaller and older bike and asking for a test
ride. They happily leave you their bike, keys, documents and in one
instance a driving licence, while they bimble off, never to be seen again.
You then discover that it was all nicked stuff anyway. I'm not at all
prejudice. The theif in this instance was from Manchester.

Reg

 

Cab was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:

IIRC someone explained some time back that a banker's draft can also
bounce or can be cancelled, much like a cheque.

 

What difference will that make? Your average person won't be able to
tell dodgy coins never mind notes.

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ITYF it was a humourous comment.

 

No notes, no test ride.

 

It's a good idea, I'll tell them I'm going to use the night deposit
safe at the bank.

 

Ta.

 

ITYF it was a humourous comment.
[/QUOTE]
<shock>

No..

Sometimes it's so hard to tell.

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Ok, I *know* I shouldn't do this kind of stuff and there's probably
some law against it, but I've done a bit of research - ok, stalking -
of my potential buyer.

One websearch led to another and eventually I found his chatroom of
choice and, lo and behold, he was online and talking as I joined. A
less than auspicious start saw him boasting of the fact that someone is
currently pressing charges against him for a fight he was involved in,
but then I private msg'd him and pumped him for info, in as subtle a
way as I could. Mind ewe, he doesn't come across as too clever so
perhaps I could've been more direct.

The chat session is reproduced below for anyone bored enough to read it
all, but some of the conclusions are:

- He is planning to travel to see the bike (rather than just wanting
the address to try and burgle)
- He rides on falsified insurance papers
- It's actually his cus [sic] who wants the bike (not what he told me
on the phone)
- He thinks he's going to Westminister [sic] so he might struggle (the
bike's in Windsor)
- He agrees with me that Ducaties (or Ducatys) [both sic!] are gay, so
he's not all bad.

Shit, I don't know. He's no angel but he seems to have genuine intent
to buy the bike and I've not got many sales leads atm. Tbh I'd rather
not sell to someone who's currently being prosecuted for assault and
the insurance is a worry if he stacks it on the test ride (but then
many people aren't properly insured for test rides), other than that I
don't see it as any of my business if he has false insurance and I'm
not about to shop him.

I might just stall him and see what the auction ends at, then call him
if I still haven't sold it.

Anyone think I shouldn't deal with this guy?

APPENDIX: Chat (nicks have been changed to protect both of us):

(spelling errors on my part are deliberate - I felt I had to operate at
his level)

me: Hi, what's new and exciting with you?
Scouse: ive had a sex change
me: Shame, I don't go for girls.
Scouse: na only messin love ... nowt really been a crap week..... how
about you?]
me: I'm ok. Just looking forward to going pillion on a friend's bike
next week. I checked your profile, you're a biker boy, ha.
Scouse: what bike..... and where you from love?
me: No idea, it's red and I think it's italian. He brought it into the
office one day last year but I wasn't interested at the time.
me: I'm from London but I have friends in Liverpool.
Scouse: it will be a ducatie ..... could even be a Mv Augusta
Scouse: cool, you ever come up here much?
me: sounds like you know a lot about bikes. I prefer the blue one you
got to Mark's. His was a bit gay looking.
me: I haven't been for ages.
Scouse: pmsl lol
Scouse: you aint missing mutch lol
me: ha, lol
me: arent you scared of crashing, must hurt
Scouse: it hurts your pride more than anything else love
me: depends if a big lorry runs you over
Scouse: well ya dead so it dont matter love
Scouse: lol
Scouse: my bikes in the bike shop at the moment getting work done on it
me: thats one wahy of looking at it. Why is your bike being repaired?
me: Hellooooooooooooooooo don't forget me baby
Scouse: ive crashed it twice love
Scouse: so it needed some parts replacing
me: yikes, did the insurance pay or are you stony broke thru paying for
it?
i pay out of my own pocket love
Scouse: im only 25 so the inssurance on my bke is ?3698 comp
me: bummer. Mark is always broke cos he buys bits for his bike, says
their rip off expensive
Scouse: they are love
me: WHOOOAA. 3 and a half grand? no one would pay that, why is it so
much?
Scouse: especialy for a ducaty
me: What do you do , you must be loaded to run one
Scouse: cos of the type of bike it is and cos im young...... pluss i
dont pay inssurance oooppss that
me: ha, my sisters like that, she was paying 800 on her nova but gave
it up. Shes super careful now!"
Scouse: i get fake insurance
Scouse: blood hell i have a gofl VR6 and am only paying ?700 comp
me: shes 19, its so unfair when your young
Scouse: tell me about it
me: would you ever change your bike though to get lower insurance?
Scouse: how long you bin coming on here love
Scouse: na
Scouse: lol
me: your like mark, you love it too much.
me: men are silly with things like bikes, us girls wish you paid us so
much attention
me: if you sold it what would you get next?
Scouse: the brand new 2004 model of my bike
Scouse: lol
me: more money!
me: rofl
me: what do you do?
Scouse: i dont drink or take drugs though love so i get my enjoyment
out of other things
Scouse: im a student
Scouse: who works on the door to pay his way
me: that's true. Loads of my mates are in the pub every night and they
wonder why they dont have no money.
me: student of?
me: student of?
Scouse: ive just finnished my 3rd year doing instaling and supporting
computor hardware love
me: wow an egghead so do you ever visit London?
Scouse: egg head lol..... no need lol..... i was gonna go down this
weekend with my cus to watch his m8 courtney fry boxing but i cant
afford it love
Scouse: still there love?
me: sorry, I wsa distracted. dont you ever come down south then? Might
want to check out your muscles
Scouse: oh i
Scouse: i used to go to essex to bileracay
me: heh to see the essex girls, I know about them!
Scouse: oh do you now lol
Scouse: lol
me: are you on here every night this week cos I might have to go soon
Scouse: yea love b4 i go to work usuay
Scouse: usually
Scouse: i just cant spell
me: ok, nor can i. I'm on thurs at 8ish, is that ok?
me: ok, nor can i. I'm on thurs at 8ish, is that ok?
Scouse: ill be in westminister funny enough love..... im going with my
cus to buy a honda fireblade
me: is that a bike?
me: why do you want 2?
Scouse: yes....its not for me its for him love
me: ha, watch he doesnt overtake you on it! or isnt it as fast as yours
Scouse: about the same love..... but were all nutter anyway so i dont
mind if my m8s overtake cos i know ill pass them again
me: well i hope you get a good deal or just sit on it to try and ride
off - thats what i call a bargain
Scouse: pmsl the guy is allready doiing us a great deal thats why were
traveling so far to get it...... where about in london do you live hun?
me: Brixton, I have to be tough to survive 1!
Scouse: love i have to shoot ill speak to you soon babe yea xXx