Am I Invisible Or What?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Kate, May 4, 2006.

  1. Kate

    Kate Guest

    Glorious day. Decide to get the bike out and go for a ride - no
    objective, just enjoy the day.

    Start bike, check all is well, and ride off. Decide to get some
    petrol, so take the long way around town via the two-lane blacktop
    between the fields of oilseed rape. Two miles of this, take right at
    the roundabout to the petrol station. See huge queue of traffic,
    decide I can fill up somewhere else. Do U-turn and head away from
    town.

    The road south has just gone from 40 limit to 30, on the most awkward
    spot on top of a rise, and on a bend. Concentrating on line, I almost
    miss the limit signs, but ease back on the throttle and apply some
    gentle braking. Speed falls from 40 to 30. Glance in mirror, to see a
    Ford Focus six inches from my numberplate and driver gesticulating.

    Carry on at 30, but Ford Focus squeeezes past, almost taking my mirror
    off with his door pillar. Is he close or what. Put arm up to protect
    face, he gesticulates again and pulls in to hotel carpark entrance. I
    get the impression he wants me to do the same, doubtless to tell me
    what I'm doing wrong.

    Decide to avoid confrontation, so drive past. Screaming the tyres, he
    pulls out behind me, almost colliding with a blue Transit-type van. He
    then drives six inches from my numberplate. Seeing plenty of traffic
    coming the other way, I put my bike in the centre of my lane, so he
    can't get past, glad now that there's at least one witness with a
    grandstand view.

    This continues for a quarter-mile or so, then the oncoming traffic
    clears, and I know what's going to happen next. He screams past, as
    close as he can get, but I've left enough room so I brake and move
    left. He screams off into the distance, still in the 30 limit. I turn
    off through the forest, shaking, and head for the main road.

    Five miles later, I fill up with petrol, and chat to an old boy biker
    at the next pump (40-year-old 350 Velocette Viper...luvverly). Decide
    to head north to next town, so through the traffic lights and on to
    the country road.

    After about three miles, where the road bends right and the entrance
    to the local amenity farm is on the left, see car positioned to pull
    out across my front. Driver (young mum with chav male in front seat)
    sees me coming and pulls out, stopping across my lane because of
    traffic I can't see further round the bend. I control the weaving
    rear-end and miss their car. Meanwhile, a taxi has stopped to let them
    finish the manouevre.

    ......I get home later, to find Planet Rock is playing Twisted Sister's
    "We're Not Gonna Take It Any More".

    About right, I'd say.
     
    Kate, May 4, 2006
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  2. Did someone post something?
     
    FrJack @ work, May 4, 2006
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  3. Kate

    Ace Guest

    Someone trying to blame every driver on the road for their own
    shortcomings, I thnk.

    Again.

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    Ace, May 4, 2006
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  4. Kate

    dwb Guest

    Not quite sure how having someone up your chuff for having the temerity
    to do the speed limit is "blaming others".

    Care to explain as this happens to me in 30's (okay, without the
    apparent road rage and attempts to have me off) but it still happens.
     
    dwb, May 4, 2006
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  5. Kate

    Dan White Guest

    Pool ball in a long sock, stored in your outer pocket. The only way to
    educate them :)
     
    Dan White, May 4, 2006
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  6. Kate

    Krusty Guest

    Shame. Best thing to do in that situation is have a controlled 'crash'.
    Hit their door with your front wheel at a few mph, then call the
    police. The shock will make "young mum" more careful in future, the
    cost of replacing her door will *really* make her more careful, & with
    any luck the police will do her for careless driving.


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    Krusty, May 4, 2006
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  7. Kate

    fish Guest

    Unfortunately the police around here won't attend unless there is an injury
    or the driver is obviously drunk. They are to busy eating donuts and
    drinking tea.

    Ken
    GSXR750
     
    fish, May 4, 2006
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  8. Kate

    ogden Guest

    "What".
     
    ogden, May 4, 2006
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  9. Not quite. There are some real cunts out there, for sure.
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    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 4, 2006
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  10. Kate

    dwb Guest

    So in this case it sounds like the OP did the right thing in terms of,
    basically, ignoring them.

    I guess the other option would have been to pull into somewhere with
    people and just let twatty go by.

    As we've discussed before, in a lot of cases once people have to step
    out of their metal boxes they're not _quite_ so brave.

    Slight tangent - since I got punted off I now find myself _very_
    circumspect about overtaking (slow moving/old people driving/general
    'feeling') cars coming up to junctions where I know I will have to stop
    (eg a t-junction/roundabout etc) - I've started thinking "I'd rather
    have you where I can see you" than overtake - especially as I can go by
    almost immediately after the junction.
     
    dwb, May 4, 2006
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  11. Kate wrote
    Yup.

    Although your comments are mostly wasted on this lot, whose majority
    experience of biking seems to consist of Mitty like dreams taking place
    on sun drenched twisties with a sky full of pink fluffy clouds.

    Reality is: some days they (blind/aggressive/stupid cagers) just come at
    you in waves on others they seem to miss you entirely and focus on your
    buddies elsewhere in the country. Get used to it, or go part time like
    the crowd and continue to whinge.
     
    steve auvache, May 4, 2006
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  12. Kate

    dwb Guest

    Yep. Little to be gained, and a lot to lose. If t'were me, I'd tend
    to stop and have a "chat", but I can see where if you're a woman on
    her own it could get very scary very quickly.

    Actually, screw that, it can get pretty scary even if you're a bloke
    on his own; it's all very well being Billy Big Balls, but you never
    know the size/number of scrotes liable to jump out of a car, or even
    not bother and just run you down. Mate of mine in north Kent got
    punted off about a year ago, and to this day he hasn't got a clue why.
    Yes, except the trouble with that is if you're not capable of giving
    someone a good kicking then again you run a risk. I tend to stop and
    check, purely coz they may be telling you there's something wrong
    with your bike, you never know.
    And in some cases they're even braver, and considerably larger. Bike
    gear gives you a reasonable armour against punches, but even so I
    wouldn't blame anyone for just taking it easy and (if you know the
    area), riding straight to the nearest cop shop.
    Overtaking at junctions is a bit of a mug's game anyway.[/QUOTE]

    Yes, that's not quite what I meant.

    Say you're coming up to a T-junction (obviously had to know the area or
    be able to see what's coming) and in front is a car.

    If there is enough room (and near me there is an example where there
    is) one logical thing to do on a bike is overtake prior to the braking
    area, slot in, brake, stop and go.

    Having been hit by a car I overtook a good half mile from the
    roundabout in question, I now tend to not overtake but rather sit
    behind and overtake _after_ the junction.

    Does that make it any clearer?

    In terms of your other point one of the things DC said on one of the
    courses I was on was "once you're past the warning sign it's game over
    until you're through the junction" - obviously not set in stone, but
    still something I tend to ride to.

    TBH I do ride like a girl, but hey it makes me happy :)
     
    dwb, May 4, 2006
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  13. Kate

    dwb Guest

    mmm, but in my example being hit from behind is specifcally something
    happening to you.

    By sitting behind them (momentarily - we're not talking about for hours
    here) it's taking control back.

    <shrug> I know what I mean :)
     
    dwb, May 4, 2006
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  14. Kate

    Kate Guest

    After 46 years of biking I'm well used to everyday stuff, and I've
    been frightened on very few occasions. But this time (with the Ford
    Focus) had me shaking. I believe that given the conditions I did the
    right thing. I wasn't about to take on a car's (at least) two
    occupants in a roadside confrontation, and I didn't have the speed or
    road conditions to get away from him. I opted for driving normally
    until he made his move, and then took preplanned defensive measures.
    What would you have done?
     
    Kate, May 4, 2006
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  15. Kate wrote
    Much the same, probably. Although given the way I tend to ride I
    probably wouldn't have been in his sights anyway. I quite like playing
    "drag them along faster and faster and see just how fast I can make them
    go before they chicken out in a corner and give up on it."

    It's a hard one to define, especially if you weren't there, which I
    wasn't.
     
    steve auvache, May 4, 2006
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  16. Kate

    Cane Guest

    Would you be prepared to sleep with Steve?
     
    Cane, May 4, 2006
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  17. Cane wrote
    It's a foolish woman that sleeps with me, most tend to stay wide awake.
    I believe it is some sort of prehensile defence mechanism.
     
    steve auvache, May 4, 2006
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  18. Go faster and the problem disappears.
     
    vulgarandmischevious, May 4, 2006
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  19. Kate

    dwb Guest

    NSL - sure.

    30? I don't think so.
     
    dwb, May 4, 2006
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  20. "It's only a licence"
     
    vulgarandmischevious, May 4, 2006
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