an actual chat about motorbikes

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Porl, May 31, 2004.

  1. Porl

    Porl Guest

    I'm in somewhat of a quandry at the moment. As you might know I'm in the
    market for a new motorbiscuit, as I've fallen out of love, in fact was never
    in love, with what is left of my fireblade. The power delivery is horrible
    and the seat very hard.

    I've now spent about an hour and a half test riding the ZX10 and the R1 and
    the more time I spend on them the more little 'features' I pick up on that I
    find less than appealing [1]. I've begun thinking about a Fazer thou.

    Since what I need has to be a bike for track days, long jaunts through the
    continent and commuting through London traffic it's starting to appeal more
    and more. However, being a stumpy fucker it's quite a tall (or wide)
    machine, which is it's only downside, ok it's heavy as well. Not the *only*
    downside as it's not a full-on sports bike. Will I start smoking a pipe if I
    move away from pure sports? Will I ever learn to love a new riding position?
    Or shall I just get a car?
     
    Porl, May 31, 2004
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  2. Porl

    muddycat Guest

    The fazer thou I think is called the FZ1 here. I think I saw a 2004
    model, it had 4 gold anodized pipes. Nice look to it if this is the one.
    Wauggh, nooooooooooo.
     
    muddycat, May 31, 2004
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  3. Porl

    Ben Blaney Guest

    <fx: looks for footnote>

    What?
    Watch out for those transit vans.
    Zed Thou? Monster S4R?
    Not as much as it will love you?
    Have both. But Swindell will take the piss out of you. Can you
    handle it?
     
    Ben Blaney, May 31, 2004
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  4. Porl

    Ginge Guest

    I don't know the answer to many of your questions, but I will say that
    getting rid of my totally sports focussed R6 and getting a far less
    sporty, heavier, and ever so slightly quirky ZRX made me really enjoy
    riding motorcycles again. I can't quite explain why, but it's just more
    fun to chuck it around, and the comfort factor is a huge plus.

    I say try something different, and just see if you enjoy it.
     
    Ginge, May 31, 2004
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  5. Porl

    Porl Guest

    Yeah but you don't do track days. I'm not riding a fookin ZRX around
    Rockingham.
     
    Porl, May 31, 2004
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  6. Porl

    Porl Guest

    The footnote was a list of things I didn't like about each that aren't
    mentioned in the mags. I don't know where it went cos I wrote it.
    Not much good for long distance work.
     
    Porl, May 31, 2004
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  7. Porl

    Ginge Guest

    Hmmm, I really should get around to doing a track day on it. :)

    When's this Rockingham one then?
     
    Ginge, May 31, 2004
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  8. Porl

    Ben Blaney Guest

    Can't see how they're worse than a Fazer. I mean, really - if you
    want to tour, you need a fairing. If you want to do track days, you
    want a sprots bike. If you want to commute, you probably want neither
    of those things.

    Quite seriously, why don't you think about two bikes, or even three?
    You were about to spend - what? - nine grand on a new clit bike. How
    about a two year old Busa for touring, a manky old heap of an SRAD
    GSXR750 for trackdays for a couple of grand, and something small and
    nimble for commuting.
     
    Ben Blaney, May 31, 2004
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  9. Porl

    sweller Guest

    Why not?

    Just because they're not faired?
     
    sweller, May 31, 2004
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  10. Porl

    Porl Guest

    Well from the online reviews, and the review in Ride [1], it suggests the
    Fazer is capable at all. It's allegedly sweet for wind protection, and the
    engine and handling good enough for track days. It's just the height and
    weight that are bothering me.
    [1] Yeah I know it's diRe, but all you get from Superbike is power/weight
    ratios and handling. There's no mention of the R1's vibey action (IMO),
    making the mirrors all but useless after 4 thousand rpm and the noise that
    makes earplugs necessary for anything other than pushing the thing out of
    the garage. As for multiple bikes, there's the insurance to consider and the
    storage. It seemed that if the Fazer was as good as is reported then it's a
    Jack of all trades, and good with it.
     
    Porl, May 31, 2004
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  11. Porl

    Porl Guest

    No definite plans yet. Just haven't been there yet.
     
    Porl, May 31, 2004
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  12. Porl

    sweller Guest

    Get a Laverda Jota, Ducati 900ss or Guzzi Le Mans. Will do everything
    you want.

    With the added self-esteem bonus of taming a 70s Italian superbike.
    Riding one quickly is something to behold, a very real and yet visceral
    experience.

    You could get one for the cost of the depreciation of the ZX10 and still
    sell it for the same money two years later.

    And stuffing one of those past a modern sports machine is a very
    satisfying feeling.
     
    sweller, May 31, 2004
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  13. Porl

    Cab Guest

    Honda Goldwing. Try that on a track day.

    --
    Cab :^) - Ormiga Atomica
    GSX1400 - 'Tarts Handbag [1]' (tm) Bike, dead 550/4 Rat
    UKRMMA#10 (KoTL), IbW#015, Bob#4, POTM#3

    P.S. Remove your_bollox from the cab. ICQ: 83023471
     
    Cab, May 31, 2004
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  14. Porl

    Ben Blaney Guest

    It really is an old ****'s bike, though, isn't it.
    My multibike policy for the Bandit, the CBR600 and the VFR800 was
    cheaper than I could insure the VFR for on its own.
    That is a problem to which a solution would no doubt become apparent
    when the situation presents itself.
     
    Ben Blaney, May 31, 2004
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  15. Porl

    'Hog Guest

    Pay attention at the back.
    The answer is Gixxer Thou. It's comfortable. It tours. It fucks right off
    into the distance on road and track. It handles incredibly well. It's cheap
    to buy. It's reliable. No vibes. Well enough finished that a few hundred
    quid can't make it Siberian Winter proof.

    Ace myself and other keep making these points but y'all keep asking again.

    Just one catch, it'll kill you if you aren't up to the job.
     
    'Hog, May 31, 2004
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  16. Porl

    Ben Blaney Guest

    I'm thinking of giving it a whirl.
     
    Ben Blaney, May 31, 2004
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  17. Porl

    Porl Guest

    And yet in the next sentence you lay claim to a VFR!! Damning indeed.
    Consider it out of the equation, next up the GSXR or a new Fireblade. So
    really just the Gixxer then.
     
    Porl, May 31, 2004
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  18. Porl

    Ben Blaney Guest

    But that was my old ****'s bike. You'll notice that I also had a
    sprots bike for medium-speed antics, and a bike for doing wheelies,
    and a bike to claim was a classic. That's the key - a bike for all
    possibilities.
    Do it. Bet you can't.
     
    Ben Blaney, May 31, 2004
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    dwb Guest

    What about a 'Busa fullstop?

    Or doesn't that commute overly well?
     
    dwb, May 31, 2004
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  20. Porl

    YTC#1 Guest

    I hope Porl gets one then :)
     
    YTC#1, May 31, 2004
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