An early mega spring clean garage clear out and paging TOG - 92 CB250N valuation please

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Pete Fisher, Feb 12, 2008.

  1. Pete Fisher

    Pete Fisher Guest

    Took advantage of the good weather today to have a mega clear out in the
    garage so as to fit in the Forgotten Error.

    As this meant getting SWMBO's '92 CB250N 'Nighthawk' out I thought I
    would see if it would go. Battery long since passed on, but hooked up to
    the one removed from Morini#2 it turned over well, so I put the petrol
    on and flicked the kill switch to run. It instantly gave a little burst
    of life. Drained the carb (how clever of Mr Honda to provide a little
    screw and drain pipe) and sloshed some super unleaded in the tank. Wait
    a minute for it to work its way through and thumb the starter. Started a
    treat. Didn't run it for very long given the age of the oil.

    SWMBO is unsure whether to keep it given she is very unlikely to ever
    ride it much.

    So TOG, 'K' reg Honda CB250N (the semi cruiser one) in red. 13700
    genuine miles on the clock. Everything functioning (once new battery
    fitted), paintwork excellent but unfortunately damp has got in under the
    engine casing lacquer. Not worth enough to bother trying to sell?

    Other odds and ends turned up which will find their way on to Ebay
    including a 40mm Bing '54' carb in good nick (from a twin shock era KTM
    350 MX two stroke IIRC) and a Squire RS3 child's seat area cloth and
    plastic windscreen thing.

    I even found the proper job chain rivet extractor that I thought was
    lost for ever. Yet to go through all the boxes stacked on the workbench
    so who know what might turn up tomorrow.

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    Pete Fisher, Feb 12, 2008
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  2. Are you kidding? They fetch really good money. Post-125 bike and
    economical commuter, you see.

    Strip off the lacquer with Nitromors, and then polish up the cases, get
    it MoT'd, and it'll make £550-600, assuming it's as nice as you say, and
    has an OE exhaust.

    Um, I might be interested in that chain rivet extractor, if you're
    selling it.
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 12, 2008
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:26:00 +0000, Pete Fisher

    Go and have a look see if you can find a complete sidecar in that cave
    of yours, I want one for a little adventure (1) I've got in mind.

    (1) Usual rules will apply. Details to follow once I've sorted out my
    anti-crash device.
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 12, 2008
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    In communiqué <1ic7qsk.17m4fddkye9j4N%>,
    Not OE exhaust. Soon after she got it the dreaded rattle from one
    silencer started (baffle come loose?). It has a 2-2 'Jama' system IIRC.
    No, the prodigal rivet extractor is taking pride of place in the special
    tools box I have acquired specially for it, and things like the
    compression tester you only use occasionally. That way I may keep track
    of it. I've seen the price of the pukka jobs these days.
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    Pete Fisher, Feb 12, 2008
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    They're not expensive to buy new. I've got one somewhere in my van and
    I always use it in preference to grinding links out if I'm fitting a
    new chain.
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 12, 2008
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    Similar ones I have seen advertised are £100 today. Good value if you
    fit chains frequently I suppose.
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    | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 Morini 350 "Forgotten Error" |
    Pete Fisher, Feb 12, 2008
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    Pip Luscher Guest


    I broke the big pin on my current one (and that's *after* I ground the
    head off the pin) so I was thinking of buying a heavier duty one, but
    I'd think twice at that price. I suppose I could look to see if spare
    pins are available for the current one. Suppose I could also try
    machining one up but it'd need to be a high-carbon steel and I'd have
    to heat treat it.
    Pip Luscher, Feb 12, 2008
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    christofire Guest

    christofire, Feb 12, 2008
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    Rudy Lacchin Guest

    I register a tentative interest on behalf of my pre-DAS,
    saving-up-to-get-married son. Have you decided to shift it? If so,
    whereabouts in the country are you?
    Rudy Lacchin, Feb 12, 2008
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    You're excluded under the standard rules.
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 12, 2008
  11. Good enough.
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 12, 2008
  12. I'd have a word with dog about that, because if it isn't a model that
    was homologated for France, you'll have appalling trouble.
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 12, 2008
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    In communiqué <1ic7x1s.12hfc4r1an0exhN%>,
    Never thought of that, being pre type approval and ubiquitous. Must
    research all that DRIRE stuff. Not such appalling trouble as I would
    have bringing the faux WR250 back here, seeing as it is basically a
    YZ250 with bobby dodger lights. Probably far easier to buy a SOB there.
    The no 'Controle Technique' for motorcycles (yet) has it's benefits.

    | Pete Fisher at Home: |
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    | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 Morini 350 "Forgotten Error" |
    Pete Fisher, Feb 12, 2008
  14. Depends how old. If you buy a real old'un (like over 30 years, IIRC)
    there are all sorts of rules governing how far you can and can't ride it
    (like not more than one departement adjoining without permission).

    At least, that used to be the case, or something approximating. I'd
    check with a Froggie classic rag for the full SP.
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 12, 2008
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    wessie Guest

    (The Older Gentleman) wrote in
    and what's special about that rule to make any self respecting motard
    bother to comply?
    wessie, Feb 12, 2008
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    ginge Guest

    Chris, don't take this the wrong way but you hardly qualify as an anti-
    crash device...
    ginge, Feb 12, 2008
  17. You're in an argumentative mood today..... I suppose the average French
    motard can ignore it, but having been on a few classic rallies in France
    and talked to the guys there, I can tell you it's regarded as a PITA. I
    imagine something like a tricked-up Jap bike would be hard to spot, but
    some Brit SOB is a different matter.

    I recall something about an exemption: if the bike has never been
    registered outside the departement it was originally registered in, it's
    exempt. But when you move to another departement you have to re-register
    your vehicle and get new plates with the departement's two-digit number
    on them, so to find a bike like this is very unusual.

    ICBW. The situation was something along these lines. We need one of the
    ukrm Froggies to give chapter & verse.
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 13, 2008
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    dog Guest

    yes, but it doesn't have to be inspected or pass any kind of test or
    anything for that to happen. you just hand over the carte grise and cross
    the sweaty palms of the prefecture with silver.
    dog, Feb 13, 2008
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    Pip Guest

    I dunno, I can see a use for him.

    In the same category as old tyres hung round the side of fishing
    boats, to stop your bulwarks rubbing against your piles.
    Pip, Feb 13, 2008
  20. Ew. Just Ew.

    Phil Launchbury, Feb 13, 2008
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