An interesting morning. Two-tyre blowout on the M25 at around 70mph!

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by TMack, Oct 1, 2009.

  1. TMack

    TMack Guest

    I was on my way to a meeting this morning, on the V-strom and heading
    anticlockwise on the M25 making for the A1. I was making good headway in
    fairly heavy traffic. I had just passed the turn off for the A10 and was
    doing about 70-80mph in the middle lane when I noticed the car in front
    swerve slightly. The reason became immediately obvious - he had just run
    over a sharp-edged piece of metal about 8 ft long that was right across the
    middle lane. I had no time to do anything and anyway there was nowhere to
    go as both the other lanes were full. No time to brake enough to make much
    difference. No time to form any thoughts in words but I do know that my
    brain registered that I was probably about to get fucked up in a major way -
    then I went over it.

    Miraculously, I kept control despite the bars doing a bit of a tank-slapper
    and the rear end dancing around. I managed to wobble through a gap in the
    traffic in the inside lane and make it to the hard shoulder. With both
    tyres flat I couldn't even put the kickstand down so I has to lean it
    against the armco barrier. A quick inspection revealed the following:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/25300337@N08/sets/72157622493431772/

    As well as me there were at least 5 cars on the hard shoulder, all with one
    or more punctures caused by the same piece of metal. After phoning Auntie
    Carol's recovery service I managed to cadge a ciggie from one of the victims
    as we stood around waiting for recovery vehicles to arrive. I don't mind
    saying that my hands were still shaking a bit when I tried to light it.
    Eventually my recovery van arrived (first one there - well done Auntie!). I
    began helping the driver load my bike into the back using a natty little
    wheeled frame that holds the bike's front wheel and which is attached to a
    winch. As we were dragging the bike over to be loaded I heard a rather loud
    crunch - and looked over to see a car embedded in the armco in the central
    reservation. Presumably somebody going the other way had taken a bit too
    much interest in what was happening on our side and lost control.

    So now we had a collection of recovery vans and Highways Agency vehicles on
    our side of the road and an accident on the other side that was fairly
    quickly surrounded by flashing blue lights. I saw the driver walk away
    (turned out to be a woman) so no significant injuries fortunately. Shortly
    afterwards we drove off with my bike on board. The driver had the radio on
    and I was strangely gratified to hear that we had made the traffic news.

    I am now going to have to sort out new wheels and tyres - the wrong side of
    £500 I reckon so I will need to think about whether its worth a claim on
    insurance. I must say I am VERY impressed with modern wheels and tyres.
    The tyres stayed on the rims and didn't disintegrate despite the complete
    loss of air at high speed.

    As the guy driving the recovery van said, if I was a cat that would
    definitely be one of my 9 lives gone. However, I feel rather elated. There
    is nothing like a very near miss to make one appreciate life. What doesn't
    kill you makes you stronger!
     
    TMack, Oct 1, 2009
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    Cab Guest

    On Oct 1, 1:34 pm, "TMack"

    ****. Wow. ****.
     
    Cab, Oct 1, 2009
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    In communiqué <ha2469$qfb$-september.org>, TMack
    'kin Nora.

    Well held that man.

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    Pete Fisher, Oct 1, 2009
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    As Vass said, I think you did really well to keep your cool and stay
    on, particularly as you obviously hit the piece of metal with a hell
    of a thump.
     
    Colin Irvine, Oct 1, 2009
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  5. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, TMack

    'Kinell, matey. Well done.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Oct 1, 2009
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    Nige Guest

    Holy fuckstumps batman, very lucky & well held :)
     
    Nige, Oct 1, 2009
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    DozynSleepy Guest

    TMack wrote:
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    Sphincter factor 10
    Sphincter factor 11 !

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    I'll never complain about the cost of motorbike tyres when the carcass
    holds together after something like that.
    Go on, give us a loud American style "whoop whoop yeah, I am *the* man"
    whilst the adrenaline is still flowing.
     
    DozynSleepy, Oct 1, 2009
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  8. TMack

    TMack Guest

    Correction - I forgot that its the ABS version. Make that the wrong side of
    £1200. Its either off to a wheel-repairer or its an insurance job.
    Assuming the wheel-repairer thinks that they are fixable, what's the current
    views on having such work done? A quick google suggests that properly
    repaired wheels shouldn't pose any hazard but I would be interested in any
    views/experiences
     
    TMack, Oct 1, 2009
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    Simon Wilson Guest

    errm, Fark! Well held. You had better luck than Concorde.

    The thought of hitting something like that on the m'way sometimes plays
    on my mind, especially at night. We all know we should leave a huge gap
    between us and the car in front, but....

    I sometimes see 'debris in road' signs on the M4, everyone slows down
    for a while, then no debris appears. The usefulness of those signs seems
    very limited to say the least. 'Think Bike' is ok by me though.

    Any chance of identifying who dropped it, from cctv, and sending them a
    bill?
     
    Simon Wilson, Oct 1, 2009
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    Ben Guest

    Plod mentioned this sort of thing on the Bikesafe I did.

    Their thinking is, you should always ride in the wheeltracks of the
    vehicle in front on the motorway.

    At all times this means the road in front is little cleaner, and if
    there is something there, you'll get a warning because they'll hit it
    first. If you're inbetween the wheel tracks, it could go straight
    under them without you even noticing, then you hit it.
     
    Ben, Oct 1, 2009
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    Hog Guest

    Serves you right, if you had put Puncture Seal in those tyres you could
    have made it home ;o)

    Shit, that's the worst I've seen. Beats Monz and his fence post. Very
    lucky, the traffic behind running over you is what I tend to think of on
    busy m-ways.

    Shame the dozy bitch going the other way didn't break her nose though.

    TOG knows a shop which repairs alloy wheels, I expect they might save
    you 500 or so.
     
    Hog, Oct 1, 2009
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    darsy Guest

    that's your mistake right there. M25/J25 is a ****.
     
    darsy, Oct 1, 2009
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    Steve Guest

    Eek - well held.Are plod taking an interest in finding the owner?
    Hopefully you could claim off their insurance assuming it wasn't
    gippos on their to way to fly tipping somewhere.

    Steve
     
    Steve, Oct 1, 2009
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    CT Guest

    PARP! Well held.
     
    CT, Oct 1, 2009
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    Dave H. Guest

    Couldn't agree more - had an off last month on a hidden patch of diesel at
    around 70, somehow managed to miss the end of the Armco where the sliproad I
    was taking split off the A3, tumbled behind sliding bike for about 50 yards
    missing (and missed by) the rush-hour traffic and stood up and walked away
    with a slightly broken thumb and a few bruises - made me reassess life a
    bit, jacked the crap job[1] at the next opportunity!

    Nice District Nurse who stopped to see if I was OK was amazed that I wasn't
    a shaking wreck and didn't want an ambulance or recovery truck (tough old
    bikes, ZZRs), Hell, I think she was as surprised as I was that I got up and
    walked away - praise be to cheapo Aldi riding gear, the body armour is
    exactly that :)

    Fairing and exhaust are a bit of a mess, but I rode it home!

    Dave H.
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    Dave H., Oct 1, 2009
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    Hog Guest

    Thing is, leave a big gap on a busy m-way and cunts keep moving over
    into it. That bit of metal must have come off a truck *just* in front
    of you T and if so the traffic cameras should be able to ID it.

    The most common riding mistake I see, and it makes me wince some, is
    bikes riding right up behind cars and trucks in the blind spots. They
    are waiting to overtake but meantime.... sitting ducks.
     
    Hog, Oct 1, 2009
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    crn Guest

    Hmmmm - sounds like a Concorde repeat.
    Bloody lucky that nobody seems to have been seriously hurt.

    OTOH luck was not smiling on a biker on Herluin Way WSM this morning.
    The main drag into Weston was closed for over 3 hours while plod
    picked up the pieces. Latest unconfirmed local scuttlebut is that
    he might survive.
     
    crn, Oct 1, 2009
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    Catman Guest

    TMack wrote:
    You must be fucking invincible now then. I use that virtually daily.
    Well done.


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    Catman, Oct 1, 2009
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    Champ Guest

    I was just thinking...and the rest! You might *just* be able to get
    2nd hand stuff for that.
    I've raced on repaired wheels (and I have a mildly dinged wheel for
    sale on eBay at the mo). However, looking at your pictures, I'd be
    pretty suprised those wheels are repairable.

    You didn't say what bike it is for. I'm not sure why you think ABS
    will make a difference to the cost - usually the ABS sender/trigger
    thingy would be a bolt on anyway, no? But still, a pair of new
    wheels is going to be a grand, minimum.
     
    Champ, Oct 1, 2009
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    Simon Wilson Guest

    Microsoft Bikesim?
     
    Simon Wilson, Oct 1, 2009
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