An interesting piece on Tomizawa

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by ogden, Sep 17, 2010.

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    ogden Guest

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    Julian Bond Guest

    Indeed. All motor-racing is a blood sport. It's not supposed to be and
    we don't admit it most of the time. The one's with the difficult
    decision are the people who help the young men put themselves in danger
    (and profit from it), the organisers. They try to do the right thing and
    make it as safe as possible, but they're the ones who have to live with
    the side effects. And in the knowledge that even if they personally step
    away, somebody else will do it.

    Life is short.

    That screed was written because my Dad used to organise car race
    meetings. He worked at it until he ended up as Clerk of the Course at
    international meetings, mostly at Silverstone but also places like
    Snetterton[1]. He finally gave up after having to attend one too many
    inquests. He basically just couldn't do it any more. That one was an
    E-Type that had one of those accidents that nobody has ever had before
    and ended up landing on a marshall's post. Not good. Since then the
    safety of most circuits is vastly improved and lots of lessons learned.
    But I still remember the feeling of "I just can't bring myself to do
    this any more".

    [1]Coram curve is named after Dudley Coram, a family friend and "the old
    man" that was my Dad's predecessor. I have a childhood memory of being
    taken in his DB2/4 up Wiscombe hillclimb.
     
    Julian Bond, Sep 17, 2010
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  3. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
    Wasn't it, though?
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Sep 17, 2010
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    Paul - xxx, Sep 17, 2010
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    sturd Guest

    Champ points to:
    Agreed, though it made me a bit queasy. My son is
    13 (same as Peter Lenz). We attended his interview
    (with four or five other md250 series kid racers ) at
    Indy MotoGP the afternoon before he died. I was struck
    by how young they were and how much pressure they
    seemed to be taking in stride. I would never have
    considered having my kid do that, or race in front of
    that many people. Not sure that there's anything
    wrong with it but I've tried to not steer my kid into
    anything that serious. I'd rather he was a kid.

    We're going short tracking tomorrow night though. Mark
    changed tires on his TTr125 last night and is pumped.
    I promised him a steel shoe for next season and we'll
    probably turn my CR125 motocrosser into a flat tracker.

    How's that for conflicted. I love racing. Having my son
    love racing is a wonderful thing. Unless he were to get
    hurt or worse. If it's me, I know the deal and I've been
    around enough to know all the consequences, including
    suffering some of them. If it's him, he doesn't really
    understand anything. He's only 13 and in spite of thinking
    he knows everything, he's just a kid and doesn't.

    I can only imagine (and it's painful to do so) what Peter
    and Shoya's dads are going through.


    Go fast. Take chances.
    Mike S.
     
    sturd, Sep 17, 2010
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    Pete Fisher Guest

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    I've tried not to consciously push my lad in to racing, but I suppose
    the rot started when I bought him his first auto 50 mx bike when he was
    7. We never took the KX65 that replaced it a year later to even a
    practice track, he just rode it round a trail we blazed on private land.

    When the NHCA organised a lad's day out at an indoor MX training school
    he asked if he could do it. He turned out to be pretty competent, but
    the instructors said a 65 was too small a bike for him buy then. Once he
    had a YZ85 he asked if he could go to a MX practice track near us that
    has juniors only sessions. He got to a reasonable standard, but didn't
    like the traffic, so he never entered a race.

    It was his idea that we should get supermoto wheels and take it speed
    hill climbing (on tarmac for the benefit of US readers) once he was 13.
    At least nobody can ever fetch you off or use you for wheel grip. He has
    done 5 events now and is having great fun.

    I was pretty anxious when he did Wiscombe last Sunday because it was a
    proper hill, with some high banks through the esses which can get you in
    to big trouble if you lose it. Being in the same capacity class I had to
    just queue up 4 bikes behind him on the line and hope no red flags went
    up. So that I could video him I didn't do the last 'open' run of the
    day. I was pretty anxious when the clock display at the start just kept
    ticking on past 60 seconds. Then he appeared back down the hill grinning
    to say he had been flagged because the rider in front had stopped and
    was getting a re-run. I was even more anxious when the same thing
    happened again. This time the red flags obviously had gone up for him.
    By this time I was getting as close to the start line marshals as I
    could get for any news and was relieved when they told me he had slid
    off but was OK. He soon reappeared down the hill with just a slightly
    scuffed boot and some mud on his footrest having had an excursion in to
    the laurel bushed just after the notorious 'gate'.

    He was still grinning broadly and I asked him if it had put him off
    doing any more hill climbs. He is invincible 13, what did I expect him
    to say? We'll see about next year, but he is already asking if we can
    get the YZ bored out to 100 and eying up lowered 125s. I won't even ask
    him if he wants to do the first meeting he is allowed to next season I
    will to see if he enquires when it is.
    AOL.

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    Pete Fisher, Sep 17, 2010
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    Julian Bond Guest

    Two mentions of Wiscombe in one thread. What are the chances of that!
    It's a scary course, isn't it. I wonder of Sir Nick Williamson still
    holds the hill record.
     
    Julian Bond, Sep 17, 2010
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    Down in the low 34s for the fastest cars these days. The 250 record was
    broken at 42.15 on Sunday.

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    Pete Fisher, Sep 17, 2010
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    ...erratic Guest

    this is what a Swiss newspaper reported Shoyas' Dad having said, on
    site;

    http://www.lematin.ch/sports/moto/grand-prix-323939

    and in english that gives - ...find me a more beautiful place to die,
    for someone as passionate (about racing)as Shoya. In a corner full out
    at 250km/h.
     
    ...erratic, Sep 18, 2010
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