And so it begins...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4228045.stm

 

Bollox. Not one pub or restaurant has closed here due to the smoking ban.

 

I think the guy has Chicken Little Syndrome, if he gave it a month
things would even out. IMO of course. Here, meaning California, we had a
very big write up in the paper quite some tome ago now about the smoking
ban. Business dropped off for a short while and they boomed as all the
people that didn't go to pubs because of the smoke started going. The
pub owners are quite happy now.

The Witherspoons near The Tower of London has a non-smoking area.
Unfortunately, you have to walk through the smoking area to get to it
and to top it off, it's upstairs. Where does all the smoke go? Upstairs
and the ventilation sucks.

 

muddycat wrote

A message perhaps?

 

Good

 

Spin-off benefits will obviously be a massive reduction in drunkeness and
drink-related offences. Excellent.

 

Bizarre! Shouldn't there be a law against premature, self-inflicted,
commercial suicide?

I wouldn't be surprised if there was an alterior motive for closing down
early.

The pub will be converted into luxury flats within 3 months of closing, I'll
wager.

 

*Ding*

And there's me thinking "they" wanted to close down pubs because there
were too many of them but couldn't think why.

Has this got something do do with the Binge drinking culture we hear so
much about?

 

And I may possibly be moving to Elgin. Top stuff, could make it a nice
place to live.

 

Fucking *ding*.

I was talking to "someone" who owns a pub, who reckoned that their
premises would be worth a lot more if it could be converted to
residential premises - but apparently you're not allowed to do that
unless you can prove that it's no longer viable to run as a licensed
establishment, which basically means you have to find a way to run down
the trade...

 

What constitutes a private club, being a member or have exclusivity?

 

And not before time. Soon I might be able to go out and not come home
smelling like someones ashtray.

--

Guig


"If you are ferocious in battle, remember to be magnanimous in victory.
We go to liberate, not to conquer. We are entering Iraq to free a
people, and the only flag that will be flown in that ancient land is
their own. Don't treat them as refugees, for they are in their own
country. If there are casualties of war, then remember, when they woke
up and got dressed in the morning they did not plan to die this day.
Allow them dignity in death. Bury them properly and mark their graves.
You will be shunned unless your conduct is of the highest, for your
deeds will follow you down history. Iraq is steeped in history. It is
the site of the Garden of Eden, of the Great Flood and the birth of
Abraham. Tread lightly there."

Lieutenant-Colonel Tim Collins, of the 1st Battalion of the Royal Irish.

 

It's hard to have any sympathy for them. They've had 5 years to come up
with a voluntary method of keeping the air clean in their pubs and they
did sweet fanny adams about it, so hell mend them.

--

Guig


"If you are ferocious in battle, remember to be magnanimous in victory.
We go to liberate, not to conquer. We are entering Iraq to free a
people, and the only flag that will be flown in that ancient land is
their own. Don't treat them as refugees, for they are in their own
country. If there are casualties of war, then remember, when they woke
up and got dressed in the morning they did not plan to die this day.
Allow them dignity in death. Bury them properly and mark their graves.
You will be shunned unless your conduct is of the highest, for your
deeds will follow you down history. Iraq is steeped in history. It is
the site of the Garden of Eden, of the Great Flood and the birth of
Abraham. Tread lightly there."

Lieutenant-Colonel Tim Collins, of the 1st Battalion of the Royal Irish.

 

Well, I have a gold card for the bingo hall up the road. It is a private
club because you can't just walk in off the street and play but you can
just walk in off the street and become a member. Then there's a club
I've been a member of that you had to be voted in for.

 

Oist says...

What's your thoughts about people going out on their bikes for a quick
Sunday blast. Shouldn't that be banned as well?

 

Oist says...

But it's harming people just for somebody else s personal pleasure.

A bit of a fictive argument I know, but the point I'm trying to get
across is that blanket banning something because it could harm others is
a slippery slope. Just about anything you do could have a negative effect
on somebody else. If a pub has a no smoking policy then that's fine by
me. If it allows smoking then go to another pub if you don't want to
drink in a smokey pub.

 

Only allowing members of the club in. This has other benefits in that
the licencing is more relaxed. They can set their own hours I think.

Classic example is a uni bar. Private members club where the members
are the NUS membership.

 

<writes in book>

I didn't know any better at the time.

 

Stay out of pubs in the UK?