And the scary job of the day was...

Discussion in 'Classic Motorcycles' started by Timo Geusch, Jan 14, 2007.

  1. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    .... hammering on the impact screwdriver to undo the lhs switch block on
    the Ducati, about 1/2" away from the fragile fibreglass fairing.

    I think that was the oddest part that I've discovered traces of
    gorilla-wivva-toothache.

    Anyway, the Ducati is now mirrorless, sports the correct handlebar
    rubber on the lhs (looks proper uncomfy, too) and the lhs switchgear is
    properly aligned, too...
     
    Timo Geusch, Jan 14, 2007
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  2. Get yourself a proper air driven impact driver as used by the tyre
    companies on wheelnuts. Just take care to adjust it down a tad on
    thinner bolts.
    A _very_ usefull weapon.

    Those cheap hammered impart drivers are a damn menace.
     
    Chris Newport, Jan 14, 2007
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  3. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    I tried that first, although I used a dab of metal polish instead to
    increase the friction.

    That's where the gorilla-wivva-toothache came in, it didn't want to
    move at all...
     
    Timo Geusch, Jan 14, 2007
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  4. Timo Geusch

    Oily Guest

    Polish to increase the friction??

    Martin
     
    Oily, Jan 14, 2007
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  5. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Similar effect to grinding paste if you use one that's coarse enough.
    That's why it's abrasive - what do you think grinding paste does
    different from polish?

    Oh, and have a look at the FAQ regarding properly quoting an snipping
    sigs.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jan 14, 2007
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  6. Timo Geusch

    Oily Guest

    Grinding paste does what it's called, grind or cut into, thereby cutting
    into and causing friction if the carborundum is not removed, what do *you*
    think?
    Most polishes use chemicals to remove metal making the surfaces smoother
    therefore less friction. Still can't beat that impact driver though, got
    one of those in late 50s when I think they introduced those Phillips screws,
    couldn't get the damn things to move without.
    Just going to have a look now to see what I've done wrong, apologies may be
    in order.

    Martin
     
    Oily, Jan 14, 2007
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  7. Timo Geusch

    Pip Luscher Guest

    They may use chemicals _as_well_, but most polishes I've encountered
    use very fine abrasive particles.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jan 14, 2007
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  8. I must have an expensive one, then. Cost me between six and seven quid
    in about 1979. Been used constantly ever since and is one of the best
    and most effective tools in my armoury.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 14, 2007
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  9. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Yup, and coarse polishing paste does that as well...
    Yes, I see what you mean when it comes to the normal stuff. God knows
    where I got the coarse stuff from, though. It probably is fine valve
    grinding paste...
    Indeed. Very helpful in this case.
    No worries, you got it right this time :)
     
    Timo Geusch, Jan 14, 2007
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  10. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    *ding*
     
    Timo Geusch, Jan 14, 2007
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  11. Timo Geusch

    platypus Guest

    "My chief weapon is surprise. And a cheap impact driver. My two chief
    weapons are surprise, a cheap impact driver, and a great big hammer. My
    three chief weapons..."
     
    platypus, Jan 14, 2007
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  12. A 4 pound lump hammer hitting something with a strong spring is a recipe
    for damage when it bounces. When the damage was to a perfectly good pair
    of bifocals and my nose the damned thing was thrown a _long_ way and
    never seen again.
     
    Chris Newport, Jan 14, 2007
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  13. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    If you elaborate a bit more, TOG may even add a number to that damage...
     
    Timo Geusch, Jan 14, 2007
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  14. Timo Geusch

    A.Clews Guest

    Thus spake Chris Newport () unto the assembled multitudes:
    What's that thing they say about a bad workman blaming his tools? It might
    have helped if you'd kept your face out of the way, as is the usual
    commonsense custom when applying force with tools. I've had the same
    impact driver since 1976 and have never suffered any breakage or injury.
     
    A.Clews, Jan 14, 2007
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  15. wrote
    I have had one longer than that and all I ever done to hurt myself was
    not hold it hard enough.
     
    steve auvache, Jan 14, 2007
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  16. I've had several (admittedly, not expensive) and they've been a universal
    waste of money.
     
    Austin Shackles, Jan 15, 2007
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  17. Timo Geusch

    Krusty Guest

    I've had one since 1872[1] & mainly use it for screws that just need
    the extra torque of a fat grip rather than 'itting wiv an 'ammer.

    [1] Not really.

    --
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    '02 MV Senna '03 Tiger 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250
     
    Krusty, Jan 15, 2007
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  18. Timo Geusch

    Guest Guest

    That's a crafty idea!

    By way of exchange, The Domestic Controller got a kitchen micro-blowlamp
    from Father Christmas a couple of years ago (can't think why, as she
    almost never does broulée...). Works a treat on bolt heads, but you
    can't use it in all circumstances though, obviously. Difficult bit is
    getting it back into the drawer undetected.

    Regards,

    Simonm.
     
    Guest, Jan 15, 2007
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  19. Timo Geusch

    Guest Guest

    I've got two, and the more useful one by far is the el-cheapo one with
    long reach bits. It's not 1/2" drive though and does tend to disassemble
    itself when clobbered enough, but it works.

    Philips screws are the spawn of Satan. Pozi are bad enough, but they
    don't seem to strip as easily. What on earth possessed them to keep
    using Philips - do they work better in auto-feed?


    Regards,

    Simonm.
     
    Guest, Jan 15, 2007
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  20. Timo Geusch

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Maybe it's only the cheap ones, but they do require careful technique:

    1) make sure the driver's fully twisted in the right direction. Gawd
    knows why they're bi-directional. I've never encountered a left-hand
    screw. Nuts, yes; never screws.

    My impact driver will damage itself if not fully twisted; there's a
    cup that a ball bearing sits in that gets crushed out of shape,
    causing it to jam.

    2) apply driver to screw and wiggle so that the bit is firmly seated.

    3) push in a bit against the spring, twist in the desired direction
    and at the same time press in firmly until the slack is taken up in
    the cam

    4) hit it optimistically gently

    5) hit it a bit harder

    6) HIT it

    7) shift grip; wiggle bit more firmly into slot; repeat 2) & 3)

    8) *SMACK* it one

    By now either the screw will be loose or its head will have a
    cone-shaped hole in it.

    Actually, I can't remember the last time I needed to use an impact
    driver. Oh, the TL's front mudguard screws: still welded to the fork
    legs because getting the mudguard off wasn't sufficiently important.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jan 15, 2007
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