and these guys run nuclear power stations....

If you include the inevitable losses in thermal powerplant, 60% is
about right.

 

A truer word was never said.

 

Typo
6.4% which I think is about the average for domestic delivery at 230v

But as MJ goes on to say in the thread the losses in large open loop
power plants are quite significant.

I'm recalling now the Sizewell B failure and the effect that had on the
Grid, another reason to have more smaller plants.

I'm only suggesting that would have been a good idea for nuclear. Small
closed loop generating plants. I have no idea how other types of
generation would scale.

 

Hmm well I wouldn't be splitting hairs between Stalinism and Communism
TBF but I guess what the USA really doesn't like is Socialism. Or
certain aspects of it.

Like us however they have a 2 party system with 2 parties whose agenda
is largely internalised.

Eh... I like Washington State, Seattle, Atlanta, Boston and so on

But SF is a great place to visit?

--
'Hog
'06 ST4-S
'96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400
'81 R65 Outfit
CO2-A load of hot air

 

But, and it's a biggie, they let one rather large organisation fall on
the sword

--
'Hog
'06 ST4-S
'96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400
'81 R65 Outfit
CO2-A load of hot air

 

Like they are open and transparent about the performance record rofl.

Huuuge difference between marine power plants and commercial power
stations.

For further amusement google Spanish Palomares and the accidental
release of 4 H-bombs. Something the Yanks have recently been back to
(ever so quietly) revisit.

--
'Hog
'06 ST4-S
'96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400
'81 R65 Outfit
CO2-A load of hot air

 

Would you sooner it was just left where it is?

I don't really understand your bit about the jobs for life costing us
all unless you mean the tax payer is standing the bill. Windscale was
built to give us (the UK) nuclear weapons so who else is going to pay
fot it?

The reality is that we should have nuked Russia when we had a
technological lead over them and then we'd have had access to all
those natural resources they're now selling us at an inflated price. I
suppose it's still an option but the UN might put sanctions on us if
we took out Moscow so it's really only useable as a final solution.

 

If you want to know where our electricity is coming from until the new
nukes are finished go and look in any high st shop.

 

You have whooshed me there?

--
'Hog
'06 ST4-S
'96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400
'81 R65 Outfit
CO2-A load of hot air

 

Ok, it's also in any out of town/retail park shop.

 

I'm lost too....

 

Your own fault for not collecting the Garmin

--
'Hog
'06 ST4-S
'96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400
'81 R65 Outfit
CO2-A load of hot air

 

Are you suggesting we burn chavs for power?

 

Rubbish.

EfW. Have a search for how many councils have granted permission for
new EfW plants and you might be surprised.

 

Very good!

 

plenty of fat to burn

 

How are we going to make Soylent Green if we start doing that?

 

Roasted SG.

 

Of course such things have to be cleaned up. However, the idea that there's
a silver lining in the form of job creation is entirely incorrect. The money
we spend employing these people has to come from somewhere (ie, the tax
payer or BNFL), so there is no overall benefit to society.

 

The public purse employs a significant proportion of the working
population on self serving duties and this is no different.