And to think that I saw them in front of my house!

Discussion in 'Bay Area Bikers' started by jim stinnett, Jul 28, 2004.

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    jim stinnett Guest

    On my way this AM to make a service call, when as I came down the stairs of
    my place on Cole Street in the Haight-Ashbury....
    A very sturdy looking Ariel Square Four chugged down Cole towards Haight
    Street and while I was reviewing my memories of that fine old stead, a very
    nice Vincent Black Shadow came past in the opposite direction. "Whack, whack
    whack..."
    I stood there for a moment wondering how often that ever happened , even
    inthe fifties when those two bikes were still in production.
    I mean , right in front of the house!
    dam.
     
    jim stinnett, Jul 28, 2004
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    jim stinnett Guest

    No but it could be the sound of the inside of your skull as it bounces off
    the sidewalk.
     
    jim stinnett, Jul 28, 2004
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    Paul Cassel Guest

    Been hitting the bottle a bit earlier than ususal there, Jim, eh?
     
    Paul Cassel, Jul 28, 2004
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    jim stinnett Guest

    Not since 1988. But I was an early starter for a long time before that.
    :)
     
    jim stinnett, Jul 28, 2004
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    Bill Smith Guest

    A friend of mine, in the early sixties, worked in a gas station that
    had been built in the thirties and still had the old manual pumps with
    the glass reservoirs on top, as a mechanic and pump jockey. One of his
    favorite television shows was Twilight Zone.

    Late one night it was very foggy and business was slow, no customers
    for more than an hour. A man arrived on a Henderson Four with period
    correct full leathers, matching leather aviator's helmet and those
    split glass goggles that they wore back then. As he pumped the gas up
    into the reservoir, he had a sudden feeling of being in the twilight
    zone. Everything that he could see around him had been created before
    he was born. He said he felt as though the clock had been turned back
    25 years or more. The man wordlessly paid for his gas and rode off
    into the fog, leaving my friend wondering not only where he was, but
    when. He told me he went into the service bay to see that his Norton
    Atlas was where he left it, just to reassure himself.

    Bill Smith
     
    Bill Smith, Jul 28, 2004
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    Paul Cassel Guest

    Seriously, didn't know any Shadows were actually running aside from rallies
    and events. Last Ariel I saw was in the 60's - a guy was taken out by a
    fluff doing a left in front of him (brakes on those old bikes were sort of
    suggestions compared to what we got today). He ended up losing the bottom
    half of his face while the bike was scrap. I can't remember ever seeing a
    Vincent anything ever just being ridden like it was bike. They were always
    museum pieces in my personal experience.

    Sometimes I get the idea to put together an old bike to ride like a 45 ci
    Harley, but part of thinking on it is riding the thing in traffic. Running
    1955 brakes isn't my idea of fun. I guess maybe if I retire (ha ha) a Sunday
    only runner, but if I have an extra slot in my garage, why not go hi tech
    and get a ZX-10 instead? I mean it'd cost me as much to restore / buy a flat
    head Harley...

    -paul
     
    Paul Cassel, Jul 28, 2004
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    Bill Smith Guest

    I have an acquaintance who uses a Vincent as a daily rider. Of course
    he has a spare engine requiring an annual overhaul, but he puts on
    lots of miles. About ten years ago he took a trip to Alaska with a
    side car, from California. Believe me, by now, he knows all the tricks
    to keeping them running. They handle pretty well when properly set up,
    and ridden with some care as to it's performance envelope, but the
    brakes require some, shall we say, foresight. With metallic linings
    and ground instead of turned brake drums they have gone from woefully
    inadequate to somewhat short of marginal.

    Bill Smith
     
    Bill Smith, Jul 28, 2004
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    Paul Cassel Guest

    I'd think that worth quite a few photos and a write up for a magazine had he
    done it. I'd not know anybody who'd 'risk' one of their collector bikes in
    such a journey although I think it a pity that so many bikes of that nature
    have become trailer queens. I know that all too many autos have likewise
    become the same. Last year I was at a mostly Ferrari rally where almost none
    of the owners would run the cars hard although all of them were made for
    owner racing. One by one they were moved off the road and into climate
    controlled storage for, I suppose, Sunday only looking.

    Still, personally at heart, I think I'm still a modern day rider. Given 10k
    I'd look with nostalgia at an older bike but buy that ZX-10.

    -paul
     
    Paul Cassel, Jul 29, 2004
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    Bill Smith Guest

    This particular Vincent is well maintained mechanically but is, by no
    stretch of the imagination, what anyone would call a show bike. He
    also has an early 50s Triumph Thunderbird that he bought, still
    crated, brand new, from a collector in Japan, put it together and
    rides it a lot as well.
    I am too, but it's nice to see the old bikes still being ridden. One
    day at Sears Point (maybe 15-20 years ago) Dick Mann rode into the
    pits on a pre-war BSA V twin, which was in pristine condition. I asked
    him why he was riding a museum piece and he told me he had restored it
    from several basket cases, could fix anything on it and motorcycles
    were meant to be ridden. I later gave him a Bultaco Alpina and a
    Greeves Challenger that my uncle had given me. He restored them and
    later rode both of them in vintage motocross events.

    Bill Smith
     
    Bill Smith, Jul 29, 2004
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    notbob Guest

    There's couple guys who show up at the BSA swapmeet every year that ride
    Vincents and claim to put on a minimum of 50K per year. Don't recall
    if either of their bikes was a Shadow. I'm pretty sure one was a Rapide.

    nb
     
    notbob, Jul 29, 2004
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    Paul Cassel Guest

    Where is there a BSA swapmeet?
     
    Paul Cassel, Jul 29, 2004
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    jim stinnett Guest

    Used to always be at the San Mateo County fairgrounds, right?
    I was one of the Vinnie dudes back in the 70's, but my Rapide morphed in to
    the downpayment on my house.
    Kind of wish I hadn't let it go though. As I found out a few years later
    they never went down in value like everything else with rubber on it...
    Every once in a while I get nostalgic and go visit Dennis Magri's shop..
    but then I recall the looks old Mean Marshall would give me when I asked for
    something for the Vincent. I swear there were $$'s in his eyes.
     
    jim stinnett, Jul 30, 2004
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