Annual Hollister Motorcycle Rally Canceled

Discussion in 'Bay Area Bikers' started by Caerus, Feb 17, 2006.

  1. Caerus

    Caerus Guest

    (AP) HOLLISTER, Calif. The City Council has canceled an
    annual Independence Day motorcycle rally that attracted
    more than 100,000 bikers a year from around the country
    and inspired the 1950s Marlon Brando outlaw biker movie
    "The Wild One."

    The council voted 3-2 on Feb. 6 to scrap plans for this year's
    Hollister Independence Rally, arguing that the city cannot
    continue paying for police patrols at the event.


    http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_048105627.html
     
    Caerus, Feb 17, 2006
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    muddy Guest

    What are they going to do, turn people back at the city limits?
     
    muddy, Feb 18, 2006
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    notbob Guest

    Ban all parking (construction signs/cones) along all cruiser
    profiling, spectator, and watering hole thoroughfares with police
    presence to enforce it. This method successfully killed the late
    great annual Frog Jumps run at Angels Camp in mid '70s. Inconvenient
    to locals initially and hated by those who most benefit financially
    (bars, minimarts, etc), but locals get their town back and usually
    support it in the end. Places like Sturgis and Daytona are tourist
    economies and would be crazy to turn away the masses. Not so
    Hollister.

    nb
     
    notbob, Feb 18, 2006
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    barbz Guest

    The horror! Them bikers might spread filthy lucre around town and ruin
    its morals!
     
    barbz, Feb 18, 2006
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    Rich Guest

    I don't think cancellation's a good idea, but I can understand it: last
    year I drove through the San Miguel Valley and Hollister on my way to
    the Bay Area. What had been a rural Western town in the 70s had turned
    into an arm of the San Jose megalopolis. Traffic was bad enough without
    any special event going on.

    Rich, Urban Biker
     
    Rich, Feb 19, 2006
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  6. No, what it all boils down to is that last year the non-profit
    "organizers" told the local government afterward that they couldn't pay
    the $250,000 tab for police coverage, so Hollister had to swallow it.
    Hollister is a small town, only about 36,000 people. $250,000 is
    probably more than they'd otherwise pay their entire police department
    for an entire year. The town can't afford the rally--they don't have
    the facilities or infrastructure, they're just too small.

    And almost all sales tax goes to the state government, not the local
    government. And most if not all the vendors are from elsewhere.

    And Hollister never asked for this annual event in the first place.

    This is the same thing that often happens when a small town gets
    overwhelmed by the attendance of a once-a-year festival/fair/rally.
    They eventually decide they can't host it anymore. It's happened to at
    least two small towns in the area of Missouri where I grew up.
     
    Denise Howard, Feb 19, 2006
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  7. Should have read:
    Hollister city council admits area over-run with south-of-the-border
    immigration, not compatible with Fourth of July celebration, bikers or
    otherwise.

    In other news, Hollister eliminates Mexican mafia hostilities, and crystal
    meth no longer a problem.
     
    mentALEXcersize, Feb 19, 2006
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    Bill Guest

    I think BMWBOB had it right - they just can't figure out how to make a buck. I'm not sure how it
    works in Hollister, but as an example the City of Walnut Creek gets most (40%) of it's revenue from
    sales tax (see source, below). I don't know what percentage of the sales tax collected goes to the
    State, but I can't believe it's "almost all" and WC still ended up with $40 million.


    http://www.ci.walnut-creek.ca.us/header.asp?genericId=2&catId=9

    2004-2006 Operating Revenues: $103.5 million

    Sales tax $40,110,000
    Property tax $18,264,000
    Other taxes & franchises $12,412,000
    Interest & rental income $6,951,759
    Miscellaneous fines $9,484,000
    Charges for services $6,849,157
    Transfers in $1,840,000
    Licenses & permits $3,046,925
     
    Bill, Feb 19, 2006
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    barbz Guest

    Well, one of the city authorities has half a clue:
    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/state/20060217-0750-ca-hollisterrally.html

    "But Mayor Robert Scattini, who voted for keeping the rally, said the
    council should reconsider the issue when it meets again next week or
    risk losing significant tourism revenue.

    Besides, thousands of bikers with an emotional attachment to the rally
    could decide to come anyway without an organized rally, Scattini said."

    Hey! We should teach Hollister a lesson. Let's all show up, ride through
    town, and NOT SPEND ANY MONEY!

    Whattaya say, guys? That would hurt them much more than a riot. Then, we
    could go to Watsonville for artichokes or something. Or go to Gilroy for
    garlic ice cream! Muahahahaha!
     
    barbz, Feb 19, 2006
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    barbz Guest

    It brings to mind the other small town rally, in Sturgis. How do they
    manage their law enforcement? Obviously it can be done. Hollister could
    use Sturgis as a model. Exhibitors pay thousands of dollars for booth
    space, and Sturgis residents make 90% of their annual income off that
    rally. I'm saying Hollister could do it if they did some research and
    saw how a big rally is run.

    The BMW Owners Club used to rally in Mariposa, until the town council
    got greedy and jacked up the price of the fairgrounds, to the point that
    the rally moved to Quincy, and Mariposa was the big loser.

    Any time you have 100,000 people gathering, there should be a way to
    handle it in an equitable fashion. Hollister's city government sounds
    kinda stoopid.
     
    barbz, Feb 19, 2006
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  11. Holy shit...Just show up anyway. The bikers I know don't need
    permission to get together and have a party. While you are all waiting
    for permission, me and my friends will be out riding somewhere. Enjoy
    waiting for the official invitation. Maybe you can polish your chrome
    while you are waiting to go for a ride.

    Handsome Dave Not all who wander are lost
     
    handsome_dave99, Feb 20, 2006
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    muddy Guest

    Sounds like fun.
     
    muddy, Feb 20, 2006
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    barbz Guest

    What is this chrome of which you speak?
     
    barbz, Feb 20, 2006
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  14. You must ride some kind of plastic-encased rice rocket. Even JAP
    cruisers have chrome on them. Chrome won't get you home...but it does
    get you more blow jobs.

    Handsome Dave Only the rain washes my bike
     
    handsome_dave99, Feb 20, 2006
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    barbz Guest

    Well, you've already made two inaccurate assumptions. I don't have
    chrome, and I don't ride a "plastic-encased rice rocket."
    Care to try for three?

    You know what they say about assumptions, don't you?
     
    barbz, Feb 20, 2006
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    muddy Guest

    The same thing they say about people that use google to post to usenet?
     
    muddy, Feb 20, 2006
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  17. Just kidding. Yeah, I heard about assumptions...Also, I have learned to
    trust my intuitiveness. Ooops..was that my third?
    Anyway, chrome can be found under the road grime under the unpainted
    parts of your ride--check your Owner's Manual for the exact location of
    the chrome pieces--Barb, I am assuming of course, you actually HAVE a
    motorcycle!!!

    Handsome Dave Been riding motorcycles since 1976
     
    handsome_dave99, Feb 20, 2006
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    James Clark Guest


    The South Dakota state troopers have better things to do than hide temporary stop signs behind
    garbage cans or remove manhole covers from the parkway leading from Mike Corbin's shop.
     
    James Clark, Feb 20, 2006
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    B. Peg Guest

    From the article it appears the city wasn't at fault, it was the non-profit
    organizers who didn't front the police (overtime) pay which seems excessive
    in itself (1/4 million?!?). We have a lot of volunteer sheriff and police
    reservists who work events non-gratis along with search and rescue
    personnel.

    To that end, if any town had that many bikers show up (100,000) who would
    front the police bill? If nothing happened, the town would be ahead in
    dollars spent (i.e. motels - like try to find one in Hollister on that
    date!). If something ensued where the police were needed, then most cities
    would have backups from another city, county, or state respond.

    In all, the event was killed by the excessive police charges. Too bad for
    Hollister's economy. Still, I sure some homeowners who reside their are
    waving flags at its demise much as those homeowners who reside in the town
    of Kernville, CA who hate Whiskey Flats Days every President's Day weekend
    in February. The businesses love it though.

    Fwiw, I've been at the fore-front of doing a rally once in national forest
    area. To do so required a lot of dollars not related to the event like
    finding porta-potties and having them dragged up to campgrounds (can't use
    the ones there!), pumped out and taken back, then coming up with a 1 million
    dollar insurance bond. Nothing was said of police charges or presence since
    the forest service has their own law personnel.

    When we gave up, we we're taken aside by someone else who worked in the
    forest service office who said to just go ahead with the event and forget
    all the formalities (porta-potties, bond, etc.). I was surprised at this
    but the person said it happens more often than not and if something bad were
    to happen they would tell everyone to leave...or if their legal-eagle on
    patrol that day was feeling all Barney-Fife'ied up (maybe not if he was
    out-numbered!). Never went ahead with it though.

    B~
     
    B. Peg, Feb 21, 2006
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    barbz Guest

    Also the same thing they say about people who use WebTV?
     
    barbz, Feb 21, 2006
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