Another "how do I unstick this" thread

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Simon Wilson, Apr 19, 2011.

  1. Simon Wilson

    Simon Wilson Guest

    Regular followers of my farming machinery butchery may recall
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/siwilson/3415919074/in/photostream

    Well I managed to recover it with the use of a die nut borrowed from Mr.
    Bonwick.

    The damn bearing in the thing has seized up again, and, I can't get the
    £$%"£$%"% thing apart *again*.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/siwilson/5635030018/

    I've resisted the urge to beat hell out of it with a lump hammer, as
    that is how I knackered it before. I bought myself a really nice
    hydraulic puller, clever I thought. But all it does is bend the pulley
    because it's only made of thin metal of course.

    Any suggestions on how to get the durn thing off?
     
    Simon Wilson, Apr 19, 2011
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    Krusty Guest

    I missed this particular episode last time, but it definitely sounds
    like time you invested in a decent gas torch. That looks like a prime
    candidate for heating the pulley to cherry red, then dousing the
    spindle with nice cold WD40 before giving it a whack (with the nut
    on...).
     
    Krusty, Apr 19, 2011
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  3. Simon Wilson

    Simon Wilson Guest

    You mean like a gas blowlamp/plumbing type thing? They just never seem
    to get things hot enough. I could try though I s'pose.
     
    Simon Wilson, Apr 19, 2011
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    Krusty Guest

    No, I mean a proper oxy-acetylene type thing, or gas axe. The plumbing
    type are fine for nuts but not the sort of stuff you keep tackling.
     
    Krusty, Apr 19, 2011
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  5. Simon Wilson

    Simon Wilson Guest

    Ah yes. If I had one of them then I know I could do all sorts.
     
    Simon Wilson, Apr 19, 2011
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I'd make a brass bush drilled and tapped to suit the thread and try
    hammering it out but you might prefer to put the nut back on so it's
    just proud of the end of the shaft and hit that.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Apr 19, 2011
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  7. Simon Wilson

    Simon Wilson Guest

    Believe it or not I had the nut on last time. I think the shaft must be
    really soft.
     
    Simon Wilson, Apr 19, 2011
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    The wood thread is up there ^^^ somewhere.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Apr 19, 2011
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    Thomas Guest

    Or wrapping the spindle with a bag of ice for 1/2 hour before heating
    the pully.
     
    Thomas, Apr 19, 2011
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  10. <fx: awaits sound of ambulance sirens>
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 19, 2011
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  11. Simon Wilson

    Paul - xxx Guest

    This might be better done when it's off, but is there enough metal in
    the central boss to drill and tap two M8ish holes at 180deg to each
    other?

    This would be so you can put two bolts through a thick plate and into
    the drilled holes, with another bolt through the centre of the plate so
    you can tighten that onto the shaft and make a puller from it?

    Had to do similar to get a wheel bearing off a half-shaft on my
    Landrover. Bearing went west and hub welded itself to half shaft .. :)

    .... or drill and tap whatever thread size can fit and buy a bearing
    puller to suit .. or buy a bearing puller and drill/tap to suit .. ;)

    something like this .. http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=143797
     
    Paul - xxx, Apr 19, 2011
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  12. Simon Wilson

    Simon Wilson Guest

    Actually that's a good idea. I might be able to drill/tap all the way
    through it and push it off by doing up the bolts.

    I'll have a look.

    Thanks.
     
    Simon Wilson, Apr 19, 2011
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    Paul - xxx Guest

    No worries. It being farm machinery you might not have enough meat
    behind it to bear against and the bolts might punch holes through, so
    maybe use another plate for the bolts to bear on.
     
    Paul - xxx, Apr 19, 2011
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  14. Simon Wilson

    Simon Wilson Guest

    Yes, I've got to admit there's a lot of potential for "unintentional
    events" if I got one of those toys in the garage.
     
    Simon Wilson, Apr 19, 2011
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    zymurgy Guest

    A proper plumbers propane torch (i.e. not a piddly blowlamp) is what
    i'd use on such an item. Nice spread of heat ...

    Plumbers freeze spray is also useful. But probably not at the same
    time :)

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Apr 19, 2011
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  16. Simon Wilson

    zymurgy Guest

    Gah, I was all ready with a 'Fnarr' too ..

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Apr 19, 2011
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  17. As a gas axe has already been suggested... is there room to get a tuning-
    fork type swivel puller under the pulley hub and beat that in? They're a
    very, *very* satisfying tool to use because you can have at the job with
    a large lump hammer.
     
    PipL alter ego, Apr 19, 2011
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  18. Simon Wilson

    Simon Wilson Guest

    Ooh, another good suggestion, thank you, and an excuse for a
    not-too-expensive new tool I think.

    <googles>
     
    Simon Wilson, Apr 19, 2011
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    Ian Field Guest


    ..............and if the threads strip you can always weld nuts on the
    reverse side once you've shifted it.

    If the threads strip before you shift it - blu-tak a nut into a spanner and
    slide it behind the pulley and wind a bolt in through the hole.
     
    Ian Field, Apr 19, 2011
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