Another one...

Discussion in 'Classic Motorcycles' started by mark, Jul 22, 2010.

  1. mark

    mark Guest

    Blue 1975. Tatty tank and side panels, nice shiny motad pipe (am I bad
    that I prefer the nose on these?), engine seems to be fine!
    Nice shiny chrome mudguards and chain guard. Side reflectors :)
    A years MOT and the brakes work. Just needs a polish really.

    The idea was to nick the good bits, break and sell the rest but I just
    know I'm going to end up owning two..................
     
    mark, Jul 22, 2010
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  2. mark

    mark Guest

    Isn't this the S.O. Honda 400 4 group on odd months?
    (The S.O. BMWs being on evens...)
     
    mark, Jul 22, 2010
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    crn Guest

    Come on, tell us the full story. Price, pictures, disasters, etc.
     
    crn, Jul 22, 2010
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  4. I happen to have a very nice tank and panel set. They've been resprayed
    in red, but the colour isn't quite right, and he's used the wrong year
    of side panel decals. There are one or two minute bubbles in the tank
    paint, too.

    So for a proper restoration, they need complete refinishing again. But
    to smarten up a tatty bike, they'd be perfect.

    I've got them listed to start on eBay on 1 August. For you, my son, I
    could stop the auction before it starts, if you want them.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 22, 2010
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  5. mark

    mark Guest

    Http://tinyurl.com/honda4004

    I've only had it up to second gear about the yard so far but it works
    fine.
    Only bad bits are:

    Cibie headlight with integral pond but working (worryingly even when the
    things switched off)
    Fag packet foil paper around one of the fuses.
    No grab handle.
    Motad pipe
    Seat is non original.
    Clutch adjustor at engine end is slightly broken.
    Horn button plastic cover missing (but functioning)
    Indicator bulb blown.
    Cable guide at front mudguard missing.
    Disc cover missing.
    Side panels are a bit manky but have the grommets.
    Tanks is sound and not too rusty inside, scratched and dented but not
    been resprayed.

    I think its been a bike that's been ridden :D
     
    mark, Jul 22, 2010
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  6. mark

    mark Guest

    Ah well, the tank is good enough to restore so I guess I might pass on
    this.
    I have some side panels also.
    Get thee back satan!



    /twitch



    OK.How much mister?The guy I got it from seems too like 400 4's. He had a good half dozen
    in bits about the place and many spares in racks :)

    He does refinished tanks for 320 quid each (270 if you give him your old
    tank).
     
    mark, Jul 22, 2010
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  7. I'd say £150 for the tank and panel set. Comes complete with tap and a
    horrible fuel gauge set into the filler cap that can be instantly
    junked.

    http://www.neil_murray.fastmail.fm/400Fredtank1.jpg

    http://www.neil_murray.fastmail.fm/400Fredtank2.jpg

    http://www.neil_murray.fastmail.fm/400Fredtank3.jpg

    http://www.neil_murray.fastmail.fm/400Fleftsidepanel1.jpg

    http://www.neil_murray.fastmail.fm/400Fleftsidepanel2.jpg

    http://www.neil_murray.fastmail.fm/400Frightsidepanel1.jpg

    http://www.neil_murray.fastmail.fm/400Frightsidepanel2.jpg

    Bear in mind that even tatty tanks now fetch £50-60 on eBay as long as
    they're not corroded away, and decent side panels are £15-20 each.

    You'd be able to flog the tatty set you've got with the bike and that
    would cover half the cost straightaway.

    I'm in Chile until 7 August, so no hurry. SW London area - collect or
    UR.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 22, 2010
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  8. eBay it - I got £35 for my last Cibie unit. Then stuff a sealed beam
    unit into the Honda shell.
    Bad news. Fusebox prolly corroded: very common. Then they melt a hole
    through it.

    <studies fingernails>

    Got one of these starting on eBay on 1 August, too

    Got one of these too.... Not for sale.

    Good enough.
    Got a nice seat, too, and it's not been listed yet.

    Will have one in mid-August..
    Easily fixed.
    Got one.
    Got one, due to start on eBay on 1 August
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 22, 2010
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  9. mark

    mark Guest

    Very nice indeed. Thank you for thinking of me :)

    I need to have a good look at the thing first though; there may yet be
    some horror lurking.......
     
    mark, Jul 22, 2010
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  10. mark

    mark Guest

    In message <1jm1xoy.8yyaw51mfy5b3N%>, The

    <snips inventory>

    Thanks for the list :)
    I shall wait until I've examined it thoroughly.
     
    mark, Jul 22, 2010
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  11. Camchain tensioner bolt on the front of the block is the first thing to
    have a look at.

    If it's there at all.....
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 22, 2010
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    crn Guest

    You mentioned a Cibie headlamp kit. Take a close look at the wiring, the
    black one has a Cibie and the bunch of wiring and connectors that should
    be inside the headlamp shell will not fit so there is a nasty taped up
    kludge hidden behind the headlamp.
    Its a lovely looking bike but putting that mess back to standard is going
    to need a replacement loom.
     
    crn, Jul 22, 2010
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  13. It shouldn't. Cibie lights were a very standard bolt-on improvment,
    though ISTR they needed a relay or resistor or something as well.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 22, 2010
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  14. mark

    mark Guest

    Cant say I've noticed anything too weird. If anything the wiring looks
    pretty much untouched. Unless you count the fag packet foil :)
     
    mark, Jul 22, 2010
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  15. mark

    YTC#1 Guest

    That made me laugh

    I saw the who poster was, the year of the bike and the colour.

    And *I* knew what it was he was on about :p
     
    YTC#1, Jul 23, 2010
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  16. mark

    mark Guest

    /Bad form
    Apart from the neatly tucked away choc block connectors covered in tape
    below the fusebox.....
    It's weird what you miss in a quick look round when all you really want
    to do is ride it around the yard :)

    I had a spare hour this morning so had a better look behind the right
    hand panel

    Fuse box has started to melt ( fx: nods to Mr Murray).
    The loom has been cut just behind the original fuse box block connector;
    the only good bit being that its very close to the block.
    I seem to remember being able to buy the brass crimp on connectors that
    fit inside those block connectors.
     
    mark, Jul 24, 2010
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  17. mark

    mark Guest

    I'm going to have to get one of these.
    I have one of these in another mudguard.
    It appears that it would break when you try and remove it (or when you
    fit it).
    Any tips?
     
    mark, Jul 24, 2010
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  18. mark

    mark Guest

    /Bad form
    Apart from the neatly tucked away choc block connectors covered in tape
    below the fusebox.....
    It's weird what you miss in a quick look round when all you really want
    to do is ride it around the yard :)

    I had a spare hour this morning so had a better look behind the right
    hand panel

    Fuse box has started to melt ( fx: nods to Mr Murray).
    The loom has been cut just behind the original fuse box block connector;
    the only good bit being that its very close to the block.
    I seem to remember being able to buy the brass crimp on connectors that
    fit inside those block connectors.
     
    mark, Jul 24, 2010
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  19. mark

    mark Guest

    There is a bolt there. It's the right size and has the lock nut.
    It appears to be sticking out a long way though; a good 3/4".
    No bad cam chain noise though.

    The oil filter cover has the 'big bolt' conversion.
     
    mark, Jul 24, 2010
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  20. mark

    mark Guest

    <it all twice>

    Sorry. Some sort of condition related to duplicate ownership......
     
    mark, Jul 24, 2010
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