any hard water treatment foak here?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Simon Wilson, Dec 5, 2009.

  1. Simon Wilson

    Simon Wilson Guest

    From a) the amount of noise our hotwater tank makes when you knock it
    and b) the amount of time it takes to heat the water up, I'm sure the
    pipes are covered in about a foot of limescale.

    Before I investigate further and probably replace it, I need to sort the
    water out.

    I've blagged a water softener (salt based thingy) from ebay and am going
    to give it a try.

    I don't mind paying for the salt etc. for the softener as I'm pretty
    sure it's going to work, but I'm not so sure about the possible slimy
    feel of the water - going to try it anyway.

    Has anyone any experience of those magnetic jobbies? Do they work? The
    interweb appears to be completely divided afaict. Personally I think
    they're snake oil up there with those things to improve my mpg and
    horsepower.
     
    Simon Wilson, Dec 5, 2009
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    Andrew998 Guest

    My parents had a softener for years (we moved from Birmingham and couldn't
    understand how people down south were able to wash with what came out of the
    taps). I can honestly say there was absolutely no problem with the water
    feeling like anything other than water.
     
    Andrew998, Dec 5, 2009
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    http://www.waterimp.co.uk/report.html

    Same institution as TBC - so prace bets now.

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    Pete Fisher, Dec 5, 2009
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  4. Simon Wilson

    Simon Wilson Guest

    I saw that - seems to be a very short/simple trial, I have my suspicions
    about whether it really did come from Bath, or heavily selectively edited.
     
    Simon Wilson, Dec 5, 2009
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    ogden Guest

    If only we knew a Bath-based academic who'd be able to find out.
     
    ogden, Dec 5, 2009
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    Simon Wilson Guest

    One that could distinguish between different kinds of liquids?
     
    Simon Wilson, Dec 5, 2009
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  7. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Simon Wilson
    LOL!
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Dec 5, 2009
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    Nige Guest

    snigger....
     
    Nige, Dec 5, 2009
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    geoff Guest

    It might be interesting to find out exactly what the trial was actually
    setting out to do. Some magnetic water softeners do seem to been able to
    have a limited effect in a small closed loop, very different from a
    mains supply rushing past with a continual supply of fresh water ready
    to deposit limerscale everywhere

    .... a single trial conducted 9 years ago, no other trials quoted or
    conducted anywhere else for what would , it has to be said, a
    breakthrough which would be sure to have attracted more attention


    "The Water Imps are Electronic Water Conditioners which use very
    powerful low frequency signals which effectively treat all conditions of
    water and flow rates."

    So - a 555 timer

    "They transmit these signals asynchronously "

    asynchronously with what?


    "via an aerial to create a strong magnetic field,"

    So - a 555 timer feeding a coil of wire wrapped round a pipe 20 times


    "which has the effect of altering the formation of calcium carbonate
    crystals (limescale), so that they remain in suspension in small
    particles and do not form hard crystalline deposits inside pipes,
    boilers and domestic appliances."

    snake oil
     
    geoff, Dec 5, 2009
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    geoff Guest

    You and your technical explanations ...
     
    geoff, Dec 5, 2009
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  11. Simon Wilson

    geoff Guest

    So what is the "low frequency" it operates at ?

    and how big is the signal ?
     
    geoff, Dec 5, 2009
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  12. Simon Wilson

    Simon Wilson Guest

    Agreed
     
    Simon Wilson, Dec 6, 2009
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    Lady Nina Guest

    He's been pointed in this direction.
     
    Lady Nina, Dec 9, 2009
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    bod43 Guest

    Note that the 'Ion exchange" water softeners add 'salt' to the
    water. Too much 'salt' is not good for you.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_softening
    "A person who drinks two litres (2L) of softened, extremely
    hard water (assume 30 gpg) will consume about 480 mg
    more sodium"

    Some random website -
    The UK Recommended Nutritional Intake (RNI) whose upper limit for
    sodium is 1,600 mg."
     
    bod43, Dec 18, 2009
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