Anyone ever had need to sue a hospital?

Tell me about it, i need a minor op, i got referred to one ****, he treat me
as a lump of meat. I told him to mind his bedside manner as i slammed the
door. I'll take my body elsewhere the ****.



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Nige,

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The real benefit of private medicare is choosing your Consultant (on
results/reputation), the additional staff, like Anaesthetist, and the
aftercare. As well as being treated like a valued customer.

I will have around 20% more radial movement in my wrist he thinks than if I
had relied on NHS follow up, considering they missed the broken ulna
completely.

 

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Everyone is on a learning curve for the length of their career no
matter what they do in life and if they make a mistake they (and their
employer) should be held responsible.

Mikes post suggests that other people should have spotted the wire
when earlier x-rays were taken and this makes me think that there's
either a shortage of properly trained staff or they ignored it for
whatever reason they had on the day. That's not human fallibility,
that's bad management at the hospital and this takes us back to the
employer being at fault.

 

The operating theatre crew act as a team. I'm saying that there are
processes which it is as well to use and emotional language is counter
productive.

If the Consultant and the Trust come the ****, and of course it happens,
then you go postal on them.

I think I would want my following care provided privately at NHS expense.

Got a date for the hands yet?

 

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That's why I've ended up going private. The difference between the way
you're treated when you turn up for an NHS appointment and a private
one is immense and the difference between their admissions procedures
is the same.

Almost certainly it would be the same consultant and the same
anesthetist doing the work so the end result would be the same but
the bits between seeing my GP and being discharged from hospital would
be different.

 

Nice result! If i had known what was going on I might not have had to wheel
the poor bloke around hospital getting told there was no hope at every turn
in the end.



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The consultant wanted me in for the first op next Monday but that
would have fucked my holiday big style so I've had it postponed until
the 5th October.

Apparently there's an overnight stay involved so I'll let you know if
they feed me fillet steak or cheap old rump for my evening meal.

 

Same kinda thang here really, all the best to you and and your missus,
must be a rather stressful time.

My SWMBO had a major op some years ago, and there were **** ups of a
life threatening nature, and quality of life nature.

Her consultant held his hands up and said sorry.

End of as far as we were concerned, as up until that point in time he
had looked after her well for many years. We were advised that a claim
for compo would result in some kind of payment, but just decided not to
go there, and concentrate on moving forward.

"Living well is the best revenge" is something I learned a good many
years back, and seems to work on many different levels, including those
where "revenge" isn't really the name of the game.

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Yeah, it's a fucker, but life goes on. Well, not for him obv

 

Shirley they're insured against this sort of thing? I have to say that if
no-one gives a **** to the point the wire has been seen prior to Mike's wife
getting ill and no-one's done **** all about it, I'd be more than a little
tempted to make 'em pay.

None of which you'd get.

Retraining a doctor? Is that a pig I see overhead? They'd just move the ****
to another hospital.

That won't happen either.


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.... ...

When I was all for doing the same a couple of years ago, it was pointed
out to me that being on good terms with the hospital was more important
at the time. I backed off

This doesn't mean that someone shouldn't be held to account for a grave
mistake

 

Ding. I do work for the NHS as an engineer so I'm not best qualified to talk
about the medical side of things but I thing you have hit the nail on the
head here.

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As mentioned elsewhere, hospitals are not insured in the traditional
sense but covered by the government in some form. It does need to be
established whether or not the wire contributed to her condition.

Actually you are quite likely to get an apology.

It does sometimes result in suspension and loss of job, see;

http://www.gmc-uk.org/concerns/hearings_and_decisions/fitness_to_practise
_decisions.asp

and here;

http://www.hpc-uk.org/complaints/hearings/

 

On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:58:12 +0100, Mike Barnard

Morning all.

I slept, Janet didn't. Not nerves, just aches and pains where the
anastetic's worn off and paracetamol isn't quite enough.

Thanks very much to all of you for your replies, your GWS's and your
thoughts. My condolances to Nige, FWIW and others who've been down
this route.

Look at how many replies there have been, then see how many have had
major problems. It seems (without actually counting) to be quite a lot
for the number of people. I wonder if Obama's right? Cue new thread!

Someone mentioned'revenge'. No, we're all fallable and lord knows how
many mistakes I've made in my career's. However Janet and I have a 7
year old son. If I have to stop working to look ofter them both, or
worst case just him, then the money will be very relevant. We don't
have life insurance at the moment and no new policy I could take out
now will cover us for this. (Cue stupid **** posts.) I need to set the
bedrock of any possible case now I think. I'm recording all interviews
on mp3, for my own use. I will be asking for copies of all the records
on monday.

We do want an explanation of WHY it was left. Twice, at least,
depending on how many others saw it and did nothing. To know that
procedures are being changed / improved.

Obviously it's too soon to be letting lose TOG's Bastard but this is
our 'information gathering' stage. It's only 4 days since she got the
initial news. We have no real idea of the long term effects or
implications other than my earlier comments on what might happen.

As has also been said, getting her health sorted is the most important
thing. Our GP raised the issue, the cardiologist is trying to sort out
her heart, there is a surgical team with remit for the bowel removal
and healing; but there is no overall "Case Officer" for want of a
better phrase. This is the first thing to try and sort. Get a named
person who is going to be responsible for co-ordinating the hospital's
responses.

I'll be going back over your posts and looking at the list of
suggested pairs of bollocks for kicking then send in some letters.

Again, thanks. Our best back to you. And TOG, expect an email soon.

 

SNIP

Hope it all works out Mike, and that Janet makes a full recovery.

 

That'll be Rick Griffin, although Connie Beecham will probably be
taking over soon ;-)

Best of luck to you both.

 

Yeah, caught that eventually, not that being insured by the government
should be a barrier to bringing people to account.

I think it's pretty safe to say it's not helped one litle bit though.

Mmmm, well a friend of mine has a son who went into hospital to have a
hemarroid removed/treated. He was given the wrong drug and he was given an
adult dose, both of which should've been spotted in the operating theatre.
This has meant the removal of his lower bowel and a Colostomy bag for the
rest of his natural and have *they* had anything in the way of an apology?
Have they ****.

I'm sure it does, but so rarely, it makes headline news.

Suspensions, but no sackings. How long do these suspensions last and does
the suspended have to undergo training before they can get back on the job?
Whatever the outcome, the medical profession has always been a "tight ship"
and they close ranks faster than a nun opens her legs when the Bishop
arrives.

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Absolutely, but the first port of call should be a lawyer. You (well Mike)
could easily say or write something that he'll later wish he hadn't and that
can be avoided without coming across as a money grabber if a lawyer versed
in dealing with medical issues is called upon.


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Beav

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Step one - work out what you want as an outcome. An apology or
compensation?

Step two, work out if the stress (and it will be stressful) is worth
the outcome.

If yes, go speak to a solicitor and get advice.

If no take your wife away for a break, forget all about health issues
and relax, it sounds as though you are both worn out and could do with
some support, not more worry.

If you do decide to take action it does not have to be right now.

 

Indeed not, but the question about what kind of outcome is also well
put. I am not sure that simply financially punishing the hospital solves
anything.

Can't say, I am not an expert in these matters.

They can lose their job being "struck off". The other HCPs can also
have their registration withdrawn which also stops them seeking
employment in a number of other countries.