anyone in Havant?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Nige, Jul 22, 2010.

  1. Nige

    Adrian Guest

    That's more-or-less what my teacher said. Except not quite in the same
    words. She was of the era & type for whom there was no greater pleasure
    than reading Pride & Sodding Prej.

    I seem to have managed it quite easily, though. I may not have taken the
    paper entirely seriously.
     
    Adrian, Jul 23, 2010
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  2. No. It's on the drive.
    Sure - there's mine outside and a selection from the neighbours - any
    preference?
     
    doetnietcomputeren, Jul 23, 2010
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    wessie Guest

    I hear that young Mr Chipping was a jolly good egg
     
    wessie, Jul 23, 2010
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  4. Speaking from personal experience of being employed and being part of
    the employment process, the only difference is stereotyping.

    There are many people in positions of power who insist upon a degree
    (or even MBA) featuring on a CV. This means that excellent (and often,
    the best) candidates are overlooked, purely because an administrator
    puts the CV directly into the "no" pile, based on the fuddy duddy
    hiring managers insistance on a degree.

    This is especially prevalent when the economy is an employers market.

    Should you manage to get past the interviewer and into they 'maybe'
    pile, there's a good chance you'll get filtered out now, or later, if
    there is an equally skilled person with a degree.

    But you know what? That hiring manager was going to be a pain to work
    for anyway.

    So, for those of us without university educations, pitching to
    traditional establishments, it's essential that the CV goes beyond what
    the competition is able to provide and to be able to talk the game the
    same way as a degreed person would.

    The interesting part, is when dealing with non-traditional
    organisations, where having a strong CV without Uni education can be
    seen as better, because you can actually do what you say you can,
    rather than simply knowing the theory. This has been my game plan and
    thus far has served me well - earning this year, the same as my former
    (double degree plus Kellogg MBA) boss did two years ago.

    I've also worked for/with people with multiple degrees (the most was 4)
    and multiple MBA's who were utterly useless and borderline incompetant,
    but were hired on the strength of their education and ability to talk
    the talk. In every case, all of them were 'managed out' of the business.
     
    doetnietcomputeren, Jul 23, 2010
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  5. Nige

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I managed it.
    I was ok in my mocks and got B but when it came to the proper exam it
    all went slightly wrong.
    That's where I fucked up.

    I was fine on the Shakespeare & Chaucer bollocks but I didn't quite
    understand that Wilfred Owen wasn't Biggles in disguise.

    My English lit teacher wanted me to appeal against my grade because
    he'd expected me to get either an A or a B but I knew *exactly* where
    I'd gone wrong and he didn't. Having a job in the bag before I took my
    'O' levels wasn't exactly a good way to encourage me to try in the
    exams.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jul 23, 2010
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  6. Well yes but from your accounts of her here she is also half way to
    being resident in a loony bin. Are we therefore supposed to be
    surprised about her lack of understanding of language structure?
     
    Paul Corfield, Jul 23, 2010
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  7. I was fortunate to have a very old fashioned English teacher and an old
    fashioned French teacher in my middle school. They both taught using
    language structure for which I am grateful given I have an interest in
    languages. In one English language test (before O Level time) I scored
    99% and someone else in the class scored 1%. Talk about extremes of
    achievement.

    You complain about English lit - some of us did French literature as
    part of our French A Level course. From memory it was Candide by
    Voltaire and Vol de Nuit by Saint Exupery (I may have the spelling a bit
    mangled - it was a long time ago!).
     
    Paul Corfield, Jul 23, 2010
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    ogden Guest

    Fucking love that book. In English, anyway.
     
    ogden, Jul 23, 2010
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  9. Candide and Pere Goriot for me.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 23, 2010
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