Saw a rather immaculately fettled Square Four parked in Uxbridge centre tonight. Very nicely maintained & polished. No camera to hand, unfortunately. -- Ivan Reid, Electronic & Computer Engineering, ___ CMS Collaboration, Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005 WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon) KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
If you weren't such a mobile phone luddite you can have whipped out your weapon camera phone and shot your wad over the Ariel.
It seems to have a 21st century successor - see http://www.wikingmotorcycles.com/home/index.htm They're a bit out on their claim about the first in-line 4 since 1942 though.
I'm confused. Assuming they just mean "longitudinal inline four", didn't Indian do one quite recently, and there's BMW's K series. Or have I missed the point?
Henderson Indian Excelsior (I think) and not forgetting : The Nimbus As far as I know the only Danish motorbike manufacturer -- Big Dave B12 : CB250RSA : Z250 OMF#4
Just a different slant on the concept. There was also that DIY car-engined lash-up (Austel? I can never remember), if those count.
BMW K100? Presumably the 1942 is a refence to the Henderson? -- | ___ Salad Dodger |/ \ _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/CBX1000Z |_\_____/_| ..80264../..21661.../..31308. (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 WG* |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 PM#5 \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4 \|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4 YTC#4 two#11 '^' RBR'06 Points: 75 Miles: 317
They claim it's the Indian. I must admit that the K100 immediately sprung to mind as an inline 4, I think differentiating between a vertical and an inclined (flat) 4 is a bit anal...
I'm not a Luddite. I pay BT £40/quarter and none of you bastards call me, so I'm damned if I'll pay a phobile moan company even more to have no-one call my handy! (The only phone calls I've paid for in the last year or so are reporting the thefts of the DT175MX and the RG250WD to the police...) Back to the OP, it looks like it was a mid-50s model as it had the four separate header pipes coming from the head. The mufflers looked surprisingly small and stifling for a 1000 cc machine. -- Ivan Reid, Electronic & Computer Engineering, ___ CMS Collaboration, Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005 WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon) KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
Anglo-Dane, BFC, Diesella, Elleham, Juergenssen, Power, Skylon, Wooler (no, not *that* Wooler). So there were a few, but nowhere near the 'one for every letter of the alphabet' league.
Flat four means boxer layout. Inline four means four inline; doesn't matter if it's on its side or not - the K100 series is a definite longitudinal four.
Or flat twin. It's the opposed pairs of pistons that define a boxer layout, whether 2, 4, 6, 8, 12 or 16.
Grimly Curmudgeon () gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : Strictly speaking opposing pairs of pistons in a boxer move in and out simultaneously - so in a boxer twin, both pistons are at TDC together. The (slightly tenuous, imho) logic is that of boxer's fists meeting at the start of a round. Or something. If they share a crankpin, then that's not going to apply - one will be at TDC, the other at BDC. All boxers are horizontally-opposed, not all HO are boxers.
From what I remember, in a Deltic the pistons had different TDC phasing for better scavenging. So apparently not a boxer then Mike
Roger Hunt () gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : Is this a new definition of "horizontal"?
Oh OK ok. One pair of pistons could be, or all of them if the engine were mounted in an unfeasible position.
Roger Hunt () gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : With a vertical crank? That'd make one *hell* of a lawnmower...