Arse. Rotten tank

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by The Older Gentleman, Apr 24, 2010.

  1. The Older Gentleman

    Pip Luscher Guest

    I welded a tank up once many years ago. I really, really thought I'd
    cleaned evry last vestige of fuel out by using hot water and detergent
    and I'd cut the bottom of both sides - completely rotten.. I left it
    like that for at least a couple of hours for any last vapour to
    evaporate.

    I did have the sense to leave the filler cap open, which was just as
    well. They make a very loud sort of 'FOOM' when the vapour explodes.
     
    Pip Luscher, Apr 24, 2010
    #21
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  2. The Older Gentleman

    Beav Guest

    They can be amateurely purged too y'know. Tanks have no idea who's purging
    them, or what with.
     
    Beav, Apr 24, 2010
    #22
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  3. The Older Gentleman

    Beav Guest

    Next time (if there ever is a next time), shove a tube over the exhasut of
    your car and put t'other end in the tank of be bike. Start motor and leave
    for half an hour.

    There will be purging ahead.
     
    Beav, Apr 24, 2010
    #23
  4. The Older Gentleman

    ts Guest

    As I understand the "theory" behind this, one is supposed to keep the
    tank full to avoid condensation, and rust. That said, in practice I
    always seem to forget to top up my tanks before winter lay-up. However,
    considering you have had your SS from new; any comments on whether
    you've tried to keep the tank full during winter, or left it as is?
    If you desperately need a working tank for some days, e.g. a French run,
    let me know. It might not need mine.
     
    ts, Apr 24, 2010
    #24
  5. Use Google Chrome; it will translate automatically (admittedly a machine
    translation but close enough.)
     
    stephen.packer, Apr 24, 2010
    #25
  6. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
    Taste good, did it?
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Apr 24, 2010
    #26
  7. Left as is, unfortunately.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 25, 2010
    #27
  8. Perfect. YHM.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 25, 2010
    #28
  9. Well, for about US$2000 including paint and postage but not duty, I
    could have this

    http://www.eti-fuelcel.com/DUCATI900SSPRE.HTML
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 25, 2010
    #29
  10. The Older Gentleman

    Steve Guest

    Could be worth a post on here:
    http://www.ducatisti.co.uk/classified/
    Steve
     
    Steve, Apr 25, 2010
    #30
  11. The Older Gentleman

    Adrian Guest

    (ts) gurgled happily, sounding much like
    they were saying:
    If the top of the tank had rotted out, I could see how that theory might
    make a difference.

    But since the bottom of the tank has rotted out... unless the bike's been
    stored upside-down over the winter?
     
    Adrian, Apr 25, 2010
    #31
  12. The Older Gentleman

    Pip Luscher Guest

    My car's a diesel....

    I do have argon, so I'd use that nowadays.
     
    Pip Luscher, Apr 25, 2010
    #32
  13. The Older Gentleman

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Condensate will eventually drip into the fuel. Water is denser than
    petrol.
     
    Pip Luscher, Apr 25, 2010
    #33
  14. Some people say that it doesn't matter if there's condensate at the
    bottom of the tank, as it's covered by petrol and the air can't get at
    it, so it won't cause corrosion.

    My answer to that is: "So sunken ships don't rust, then?"
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 25, 2010
    #34
  15. The Older Gentleman

    Adrian Guest

    (The Older Gentleman) gurgled happily,
    sounding much like they were saying:
    The condensation in your tank is saline?
     
    Adrian, Apr 25, 2010
    #35
  16. The Older Gentleman

    ts Guest

    You could add that "Fish don't exist, because the oxygen does not reach
    down to where they live".

    I1ve been led to believe[1] that the "lead replacement" chemicals
    contains potassium compounds. This metal is as far as I know not well
    known to bond chemically with organic molecules, but remain as a highly
    soluble (in water) cation. So, could LRP be more aggressive when it
    comes to induce corrosion of steel petrol tanks?

    If petrol companies forked out to compensate for burnt-out valves after
    having introduced their first-generation LRP, one could perhaps sue them
    to compensate for corroded petrol tanks . . .

    [1]by petrol station till staff[2]
    [2]and brochures they may be given to hand out
     
    ts, Apr 25, 2010
    #36
  17. The Older Gentleman

    AW Guest

    If it's just brazing, Alphas Welding in Bensham Lane, Thornton Heath.
     
    AW, Apr 25, 2010
    #37
  18. The Older Gentleman

    crn Guest

    Winter storage is probably irrelevant.
    All fuel contains a small amount of water which settles out to the bottom
    of the tank, which is why fuel is taken from about half an inch from the
    bottom. All tanks will have a small layer of water in the botton which
    gradually gets deeper after each fill. When the bike is ridden some of
    the water gets shaken up into suspension in the fuel and passes harmlessly
    through the carbs. The remainder settles out again overnight.
     
    crn, Apr 25, 2010
    #38
  19. And ships sunk in fresh water don't rust either?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 25, 2010
    #39
  20. Looks more serious than that. At least half a dozen spots visible,
    almost certainly more yet to break through.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 25, 2010
    #40
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