ATTN: Sir Tony

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by BGN, Dec 7, 2005.

  1. BGN

    BGN Guest

    Hello Tony dear.

    Can you please email me, I would very much like to meet you and have a
    natter.

    As a long standing but recently departed Listening Volunteer from The
    Samaritans I think that I'll be able to understand what you want to
    say.

    Kindest regards,
     
    BGN, Dec 7, 2005
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  2. BGN

    sir tony Guest

    Are you threatening me? That will be annother complaint.
     
    sir tony, Dec 7, 2005
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  3. In uk.rec.motorcycles, BGN amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:
    That's all well and good, Nicky, baby, but the fool needs at least half
    a brain to interpret the response.
     
    Whinging Courier, Dec 7, 2005
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  4. BGN

    BGN Guest

    No dear, if you read the original post you will realise it was an
    invitation out to speak with me. Not many people get them.
     
    BGN, Dec 7, 2005
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  5. BGN

    BGN Guest

    I've had some right nutters understand things. The way to do it is
    not to tell them anything, but to just listen and reflect back what
    has been said.

    Most people have no idea what they've said to you until one tells them
    what they've just said.
     
    BGN, Dec 7, 2005
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  6. BGN

    Big Dave Guest

    I think that I understood that.
    Did I Nick?

    Dave
     
    Big Dave, Dec 7, 2005
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  7. BGN

    BGN Guest

    You think you understood what I said?
     
    BGN, Dec 7, 2005
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  8. BGN

    Big Dave Guest

    No Mate. Quite the opposite. A threat would go something like this:
    "I know where you live you f*cking c*nt, and I'm gonna come round there
    and rape your f*cking hamster. Then I'm gonna beat you savagely with a
    f*cking teaspoon!"

    You see the difference?

    Dave
     
    Big Dave, Dec 7, 2005
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  9. BGN

    BGN Guest

    If you don't wish to talk to me you can contact Samaritans in a number
    of ways. They don't charge you money, they don't ask for donations
    and you don't even need to have a specific reason for talking to them.
    If you're not feeling great then talk to them.

    1) Telephone:

    08457 90 90 90 (local rate)

    This is available 24/7, every day of the year. You will never get a
    busy tone.

    2) Letter:

    Chris
    P.O. Box 90 90
    Stirling
    FK8 2SA

    3) Email:



    They like to have all of their email answered within a day.

    4) Walk into your local Samaritans branch and have a natter.

    If you look in your local phone book (and sometimes in phone boxes, or
    just ring directory enquiries and they'll tell you, or just ring the
    phone number I gave you and they'll tell you where your nearest branch
    is) under Samaritans you'll find the address of your local Sams office
    (which is normally a normal house in a normal street) just give them a
    call if you like and let them know you're coming. You don't have to
    call them first, but it helps if they have someone there as not all of
    the branches are 24/7.

    It doesn't matter who you are - If you are in crisis, despairing or
    suicidal, contacting them can make all the difference to talk about
    how you are feeling.

    You can speak in total confidence with one of their volunteers about
    anything that is troubling you. They will not judge you; they will
    not tell you what to do; but they will try to help you think things
    through. With Samaritans, you get the time and the space to find a
    way through.
     
    BGN, Dec 7, 2005
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  10. BGN

    sir tony Guest

    sir tony, Dec 7, 2005
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  11. BGN

    BGN Guest

    I don't read uk.legal

    Sorry. But please do have a look at my other post in this ukrm thread
    with contact details for your local Samaritans branch as they'll be
    happy to speak with you.
     
    BGN, Dec 7, 2005
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  12. BGN

    AndrewR Guest

    A wise move - it's full of bloody headcases, including the guy who thinks
    that international figures are making personal remarks about him whenever
    they appear on TV.

    uk.legal.moderated is the place to go for legal advice and arguments about
    moderation policy. Oh and extra Borg, which is lovely.

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    The speccy Geordie twat.
     
    AndrewR, Dec 7, 2005
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  13. BGN

    sir tony Guest

    This is what I said on that group:

    Some people on the UKRM has been publishing people's personal details,
    posting directions to that address, slander, inciting people to harass
    the occupants at that address on uk.rec.motorcycles.


    In fact it was several people on that newsgroup who where involved in
    that activity and I think it is disgusting the fact these people still
    have an account.


    I really think that newsgroup should be shut down, or the accounts of
    those people should be terminated(immediately).


    http://tinyurl.com/bxyoh
     
    sir tony, Dec 7, 2005
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  14. They're doing it to him, too?
     
    danny_deever2000, Dec 7, 2005
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  15. In uk.rec.motorcycles, Big Dave amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:
    Beating someone with a teaspoon is hardly a threat.

    A wet tea towel on the other hand...
     
    Whinging Courier, Dec 7, 2005
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  16. In uk.rec.motorcycles, BGN amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:
    I find this kind of dialogue infuriating, personally.
     
    Whinging Courier, Dec 7, 2005
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  17. BGN

    BGN Guest

    That's because you're thinking like a relatively normal person.

    To someone who has so much going on in their mind that they can't
    concentrate and are utterly paranoid it helps to single out a thought
    and expand upon it. Answering a statement with a yes/no reply isn't
    always appropriate and makes it harder to open up other threads of
    thought and conversation.

    The presenting situation isn't always the issue "My husband always
    comes home from work late" doesn't just lead to "It's because he hates
    you" it would probably be responded to with:

    How does that make you feel?
    What do you do to cope when he's late?
    How often does this happen?
    How does that make you feel?
    Is this a problem?
    Do you worry?
    How does that make you feel?
    What do you worry about?
    Do you worry for yourself?
    Have you spoken to him about it?
    How does that make you feel?

    And a thousand more.

    It may well be that he comes home from work late because he's very
    busy working to a deadline and has only come home late twice that
    week. It may be that this is the first time he's home late. His car
    has broken down. It might be that his wife treats him badly and he's
    using work as an escape route.

    The husband might not even exist. The presenting problem is that the
    woman is worried about something and has phoned the Samaritans. The
    husband isn't there, he's out of the picture. The only issue is her
    and she's in crisis.

    As an example when I worked for them I had a lady call up because her
    neighbours kept playing loud music and she couldn't concentrate on the
    TV programme she was watching. Two hours later the call ended after
    having gone through a personal tragedy, loss of one of her children,
    feelings of unworthiness in the eyes of her father who never knew his
    brother sexually abused her as a child and she was afraid that she
    enjoyed it and married her husband because he looked like her uncle
    but could never tell anyone. A lot of ground was covered.
     
    BGN, Dec 7, 2005
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  18. There's nothing like a good gossip, is there?
     
    Soylent Green, Dec 7, 2005
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  19. BGN

    Catman Guest

    You are Dr Sbaitso AICMFF early speech synthesisers.
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    Catman, Dec 7, 2005
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  20. BGN

    Catman Guest

    Good God, you can't even quote *yourself* accurately

    FTR here's what you actually said.

    <quote>
    Someone has been post a private address on a news-group, would that be
    a civil or criminal
    offence(especially of they slander the owner of that address and-then
    proceed to post direction to that address on a public newsgroup)?
    </quote>


    and this:
    That is a lie, I have never posted anyone's address on any newsgroup
    and the photographs where of very poor quality(the registration numbers
    could never be made out from them)
    That was posted a long time ago, no action was taken against them and
    the vehicles are owned by other people.
    That is just a slanderus remark.
    I was just asking if it was worth going to the police about the matter
    or just send a report to that person's isp?

    </quote>

    So it's a good job that an increasing number of people don't care what you
    think about UKRM

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    Catman, Dec 7, 2005
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