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    Ace, Oct 20, 2010
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    nicknoxx Guest

    At least your picture hasn't blown out all the whites on the rocks.
     
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    Ace Guest

    It's slow (and free) so try again.
     
    Ace, Oct 20, 2010
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  6. Are you suggesting that the photo from your Lumix is "better" than the
    one from Champs SLR?
     
    doetnietcomputeren, Oct 20, 2010
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    Krusty Guest

    Is that the one you took just before leaping in the air shouting "ow
    **** ow ow that's an electric fence"?
     
    Krusty, Oct 20, 2010
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    nicknoxx Guest

    I'd darken the background with a graduated filter to make it more distant
    Mostly, I only used Picassa to up the saturation, make the peak whites
    and the greys a little brighter
     
    nicknoxx, Oct 20, 2010
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    Dawn Guest

    My Google Chrome did!
     
    Dawn, Oct 20, 2010
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    SIRPip Guest

    Found it!
     
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    Catman Guest

    IMHO on that showing, 'lots' but I suspect YMV.

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    Catman Guest

    Don't look blown here, but wibble flip.

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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    That one has far more detail, and is generally better exposed apart from
    the blown whites. It also has a bit too much sharpening applied (IMHO).

    I wonder what format it was shot in, if it was Raw, then it could be
    improved a lot in Raw processing I would suspect. A bit of levels or
    curves adjustment could turn that into a really stunning shot.

    One of the tricks I use with my DSLR with tricky shots is to set the
    compensation to -0.3ev. That usually retains the detail in the whites,
    and the DSLR will often have enough dynamic range to get the shadow and
    highlight detail back.

    I use Apple Aperture, and that has a brilliant highlight recovery
    adjuster, which along with the black point setting, give you a good base
    exposure setting before embarking on the rest of the adjustments.
    Not bad. You can see the difference, the trees are a bit underexposed,
    the cliffs have retained detail, but you can see the lower level of
    detail though, which would be expected with the difference in sensors
    here. Trouble is, if you try to bring up the underexposed parts from a
    compact JPG image, you'll just end up with lots of digital noise.

    A but of unsharp mask might really help.
    In the right hands, they should be far far better. If you just shoot JPG
    though, you won't see as much difference as if you shoot Raw then
    post-process.

    I would suspect that the two cameras here have metered on different
    parts of the view. The DSLR might even have been on spot metering, and
    exposed for the trees, the compact probably had auto metering, and
    exposed for the cliffs.

    This is a user issue really, not a camera issue. Both good pics, but
    neither perfect.

    BTW, I'm viewing on a monitor calibrated with a Pantone Huey, and setup
    for photo editing.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Oct 20, 2010
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    ofnuts Guest

    The SLR pic has too much sharpening applied.

    The Lumix pic has a rather noisy background and foliage looks like plastic.
     
    ofnuts, Oct 20, 2010
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    CT Guest

    ^^^^^^^

    This ^
    ....means you're not really comparing like with like, depending on how
    much "tweaking" has been done.

    The post-processed versions of yours show that there's not *that* much
    difference.

    Plus, as just a "snapper", I'll always use a compact rather than a DSLR
    as I can keep it in my pocket.
     
    CT, Oct 21, 2010
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    Mine wasn't the only comment on the sharpening, but the whites are
    blown. It's a lovely scene, but I think those two faults make a little
    less than perfect.

    I was only offering some constructive criticism. If it was me, I'd redo
    the Raw processing and recover the white a bit more, and apply a little
    less sharpening.

    Make good use of the histogram while making the adjustments.
    An hour on one photo just for corrections?

    This only had a minute or two spent on it:

    Nice stuff.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Oct 22, 2010
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