Autumn colours

Yeah, I think that's a better colour job than H's, although I prefer
his crop - somehow this later effort loses the scale of landscape a
little.

But although yours certainly has better definition, I actually think I
prefer the depth of colour on mine. Dunno if it's the original or just
your effects though.

 

Oh sure, and there was no intention to do so. Just found it
interesting. And although I suspect Champ might have been trying to be
clever with his SLR, I just set the Lumix on 'Scenery' and let it do
its stuff.

Yes, that's clear (no pun intended).

Yeah, the lens on the lumix is _tiny_, with only 3* optical zoom, all
internal to the camera body. It's the price we paid for having a
shockproof waterproof one.

But overall, I'm rather pleased that my full-suto snap at least bears
comparison.

 

And this is what my cheap(ish) Samsung managed. Click to enlarge.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v360/MuddyStuff/?action=view&current=S
AM_0034_copy.jpg

 

Also good. Also looks a little over-exposed, but now I think about it
I think I may have metered mine on the foreground, before moving up to
the horizon, so in fact under-exposing it. Gives a little more sense
of shades, but loses on the colour front.

 

I wonder how much is down to the viewer's screen calibration. E.g.
yours looks very under-exposed on my screen & appears to have a reddish
tint. Mine looks perfectly exposed, which it would do as I tweaked the
brightness to look right on my screen. Champ's looks a little bit over
(especially the rock), & also looks the most post-processed, but I also
think it looks the nicest.

Other way round, surely? Or was there a bright bit in the foreground
you've cropped?

 

No, brainfart time.

 

Yeah I used to calibrate mine when I did graphics for websites, but
then I decided life's too short. I just use the 'Auto' button on the
Samsung screens now, & the lappie's as it came out the box.

 

It makes sense to keep as much detail as possible throughout the production
process and then do the compression/encoding in one step right at the end.
Doing otherwise leads to problems.

 

We used regularly calibrated grade 1 monitors for colour work on 'Life'
but producers, who should know better, would spent all day in a
specially lit room with all the latest gear would still take a dvd home
and say "It looks a bit dark on my tv at home" or similar. FFS.

 

And the audience for 'Life', remind me, would they be watching it on a
calibrated grade 1 monitor in a specially lit room, or on a tv at home?

 

That's what I was wondering. If you look at the TVs that are on in a
shop, the pictures vary wildly. So what is a 'calibrated grade 1
monitor' actually calibrated to? An average of the factory default
settings of the top n selling TVs over the previous n years, or some
specific standard that the flat panel manufacturers probably don't take
any notice of as all they care about is their TV looking the best in a
shop display[1]? Or something else entirely?

[1] I suspect it's this one.

 

As you say there's a huge variety in domestic monitors so there's a
standard to which all decent post production houses adhere so that if
you did have your domestic tv set up properly you'd be able to see all
the detail in the whites and black with realistic colours.

Unfortunately there is no flat panel available that will meet this
standard, yet, as they can't do proper blacks.

My tv has a mode called 'shop' or similar to make it look good on
display in a bright room.

 

Thread hijack - Nick, I've emailed you but the addy may be OOD.

 

Most people don't really care, so long as the content is good enough.

For everything else, there's HD.

 

I've replied.

 

That's Carmichael's problem, then.

 

RFC2298-over-NNTP - it'll never catch on.

 

Gorrit. I'll be in touch.

 

Really? I've never seen a Pluge generator on a graphics card and that's
a basic starting point.
Printers are a black art IME

 

You're probably right. My experience of graphics cards is pretty lean.
The software of the one I'm using now doesn't have PLUGE but there's
nothing to stop me downloading one if I GAF which I don't as I don't
watch tv on my laptop.