Averages

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by sweller, May 18, 2008.

  1. sweller

    sweller Guest

    Maths has always been a bit of mystery to me so I could do with some help.

    If I have, say, 1000 drivers on £37K, 800 on £34K, 400 on £50K, 1200 on
    £37K, 300 on £30K etc. how do I calculate the average salary across the
    industry?

    ....and how to achieve that in Excel.
     
    sweller, May 18, 2008
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  2. sweller

    prawn Guest

    Average? Mean?

    (37000*800) + (34000*800) + (50000*400) / 2000[1] would give a mean
    salary.

    [1] where 2000 is total drivers.

    Simple spreadsheet here: http://prawn.mine.nu/drivers.xls
     
    prawn, May 18, 2008
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  3. sweller

    sweller Guest

    Thanks, exactly what I was after. Seems simple now.
     
    sweller, May 18, 2008
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  4. sweller

    Gyp Guest

    You'll need 3 columns

    "Salary", "number of drivers" and "total salary spend"

    Each of the columns will have the information as above, with the "total
    salary spend" on each row being the multiplication of the "salary" and
    "number of drivers"

    Then at the bottom of the table you add up all the figures in the
    "number of drivers" column, and all the figures in the "total salary
    spend", then divide the salary figure by the drivers figure

    salary no of drivers total salary spend

    37 1000 37000
    34 800 27200
    50 400 20000
    37 1200 44400
    30 300 9000

    3700 137600

    AVE= 37.18918919
     
    Gyp, May 18, 2008
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  5. sweller

    prawn Guest

    What's the answer, then and would darsy get out of bed in the morning for
    it?
     
    prawn, May 18, 2008
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  6. sweller

    Eiron Guest

    The mode might be better than the mean.
    It depends on what you are trying to prove.
     
    Eiron, May 18, 2008
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  7. sweller

    sweller Guest

    I need some data and I won't get it until later in the week.

    I think the hourly rate would be more interesting in terms of darsy.
    It's not getting out of bed, it's how often and for how long that counts.
     
    sweller, May 18, 2008
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  8. sweller

    sweller Guest

    O level maths grinds into action - I may show all three (mode, mean and
    meridian) but for my purposes, and that of the target audience, mean
    would be the one most readily accepted.

    Mean gets distorted if done without taking into account the number of
    drivers - and I didn't know how to do that.
     
    sweller, May 18, 2008
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  9. sweller

    darsy Guest

    given that I wouldn't "get out of bed" for the highest of those
    figures, the average is unlikely to be appealing
    <fx: very rough sums>

    hmm.
     
    darsy, May 18, 2008
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  10. sweller

    Adie Guest

    what you need is the standard deviation then. it shows the variation
    on the spread and the inter quartile which shows the middle spread (ie
    the numbers not skewed by the outliers.

    if you send me the data when you get it I'll do some basic stats and
    send you a nice table.
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    Adie, May 18, 2008
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  11. Only if one group occurs significantly more frequently than the others
    - I'm not sure that applies here.
    You mean median - unless we're talking geography.
    Mean's perfectly acceptable with the numbers you're crunching. The
    mean gets distorted if you have crazy outliers - like including
    company directors' wages in with 20 other cleaners etc.
     
    the man with no idea, May 18, 2008
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  12. sweller

    sweller Guest

    Yeah, yeah. It was twenty four years ago.
     
    sweller, May 18, 2008
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  13. sweller

    Doki Guest

    WTF are they driving around for > £30k a year?
     
    Doki, May 18, 2008
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  14. sweller

    Lozzo Guest

    NAHAY?

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    Lozzo, May 18, 2008
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  15. sweller

    Doki Guest

    The penny has dropped. Fucking tube drivers...
     
    Doki, May 18, 2008
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  16. sweller

    sweller Guest

    Newcastle metro drivers get £30K, LUL £38K, mainline heavy rail more.
     
    sweller, May 19, 2008
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  17. How come there's such a variation in wages?
     
    Whinging Courier, May 19, 2008
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  18. sweller

    sweller Guest

    I included tram and depot drivers in the examples.

    However, even under BR there always was a variation in earnings
    (dependent on the type of work predominant at each depot). When we
    forced restructuring on the new companies these variations became
    incorporated as guaranteed salary.

    There are other factors to be considered such as time off, whether
    Sundays are included in the working week (three rest days a week etc) and
    various rostering and diagramming parameters which have a big impact on
    productivity.

    The average salary for UK train drivers (inc. Metro) is £36,382
     
    sweller, May 20, 2008
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  19. sweller

    darsy Guest

    earning that much for sitting on your arse all day, drinking tea, and
    making sarcastic comments over the intercom!

    Criminal!
     
    darsy, May 20, 2008
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  20. sweller

    sweller Guest

    ALL day! ****. That. 8h 45m and only 4 times a week.

    # Which side are you on, boys?
    # Which side are you on?
     
    sweller, May 20, 2008
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