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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by JackH, Feb 3, 2010.

  1. JackH

    JackH Guest

    ....of which I currently have one of those in my lockup too.

    Belongs to my old man.

    Nice bike actually - rode far nicer than I expect it too, and not
    exactly a slouch either.

    If he decides he's had enough of it in due course, I may consider
    adding it to my fleet for when I can't be arsed to wrestle with the
    behemoth.
     
    JackH, Feb 3, 2010
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  2. JackH

    JackH Guest

    My initial thoughts when Dad bought this were 'WTF did he buy that
    for?'.

    That changed after I rode it though. :)

    It's an I believe it's an FII, so hopefully not one with impending
    chocolate camshafts.
    Dad bought this when he was looking for a Superdream 400.

    I'm not quite sure why he wanted either really, but the official
    excuse was as 'something for when I want nip down the town etc and the
    Divvie is a bit big for that'.
    I believe this one runs slightly on the hot side.

    Main issue with it at the mo is the throttle cables seem to be free,
    but the throttle seems to stick - have you seen just how accessible
    the cables are at the carb end??? :-O
     
    JackH, Feb 3, 2010
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  3. JackH

    Lozzo Guest

    The VF400s and all the VF500s had no camshaft problems, they didn't
    regularly break cranks as some magazines would have you believe either.
    One VF500 broke a crank when being abused by a journo on the South
    African launch.

    The biggest problem with the smaler VFs was servicing was a difficult
    job to do at home back then. They were quite sophisticated machines and
    very compact in design, and with being so jewel-like in manufacture
    they need good regular servicing and oil changes. With Honda servicing
    costing so much, even back then, they tended to get neglected after a
    couple or three years, with the result that some broke down or ended up
    rattling badly. It wasn't really the bike's fault, but cheapskate
    owners who should have got them properly looked after.

    I'll admit all the 750s were a complete mechanical sack of shite, but
    the 1000s weren't too bad.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 3, 2010
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  4. JackH

    JackH Guest

    I had a good read when he got it, and apparently the pre-FII models
    are a bit prone to that.

    Seems they improved the design of the top end on the FII to counter
    that kind of thing.
    I know... which given how much he'd been on about getting a 400, was
    one of the reasons I said 'WTF!' when this appeared in his garage all
    of a sudden. ;-)
    Looks like a right PITA to me, anyway.

    Had the GSX not been inadvertently vandalised yesterday by the shop I
    normally use, I was thinking of putting the VF into there to get said
    sticky throttle sorted.

    Will review the situation once the GSX is back...
     
    JackH, Feb 3, 2010
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  5. JackH

    Lozzo Guest

    Mark Olson wrote:

    I burned the **** out of my left hand on a water pipe balancing the
    carbs on LN's VFR400 NC24. As my left hand is dead to the feel I didn't
    notice I was doing it at the time.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 3, 2010
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  6. JackH

    Lozzo Guest

    It was the fact you had to remove the rad to get to the front pots to
    do the valve clearances, and the fact everything was packed in so tight
    and awkward. I have seen loads of neglected V Fours because the owners
    just can't be arsed to service them for these reasons.

    I find them a joy to work on because it's rare you come across a
    rounded nut or bolt and being a Honda everything fits nicely when you
    do it properly.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 3, 2010
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  7. JackH

    Lozzo Guest

    I find SVs a piece of piss to service, probably because I've done so
    many and done them often enough. It's very rare the shims ever need
    changing on them anyway, especially if they've been run on decent
    semi-synth changed every 3 to 4K miles.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 3, 2010
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  8. JackH

    Pip Guest

    Same as the VF750 too, with which I've had some experience. I was a
    bit surprised, when the old thing started exhibiting symptoms of fuel
    starvation - but a swift perusal of the Clymer BOL (and, hey, Mr Clymer
    tells even more hooorendous whoppers than Mr Haynes) showed a concealed
    pump, hidden in the depths behind the heel of the tank. It turned out
    to be a replica of an SU pump, with which I'd had some considerable
    experience with the infamous Moggy Minor and later, the Jag. It also
    yielded to the same treatment - a good cleaning of the points gave it
    back its 'lub-dup' and later, when it fritzed again, a tap with the
    handle of a screwdriver re-energised the accursed thing.

    But no, no feed back to the tank, and thye should operate at relatively
    low pressures, although I'm quite sure that it'd be possible for the
    thing to go wrong in yet another interesting and exciting way and
    suddenly start to squirt fuel around when you would least desire it to.
     
    Pip, Feb 3, 2010
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  9. JackH

    Pip Guest

    Mark Olson wrote:

    [VF500]
    The demise of my VF750 started with it getting a bit warm. Despite
    having the radiator reamed and then drilling the 'stat, then later
    removing the 'stat and throwing it over a hedge, it continued to do so.
    Once it had advanced to the point where the temp guage would start to
    creep up should I exceed 70mph on a motorway, serious investigations
    were undertaken. Compression checks revealed nothing amiss, then a
    series of hot and cold leakdown tests (and if TOG thinks adjusting a
    carb on a hot engine is a PITA, he ought to try a hot leakdown on a V4)
    equally revealed nothing.

    After embarassing me on a rideout when I had to top up the radiator
    twice, it got to the point on a subsequent occasion when it spat its
    coolant out at the bike following me, whereupon I got Auntie Carole to
    take me home and threw the fucker in the shed and never rode it again.

    It did, however, move house with me four times in the back of various
    vans, then I eventually ebayed the POS as a garden ornament cum guano
    collector and some certifiable Hungarian geezer gave me 120 quid for
    it. He reckoned he filled it with fuel and it not only started but ran
    with no problems, but I gave little credence to that. I think he was
    full of guano, in fact.
     
    Pip, Feb 3, 2010
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  10. JackH

    Pip Guest

    That's a wise move. Having said that (you're looking at a Sabre or
    Magna, I guess) if the thing is still capable of moving under its own
    power it must be sound by now, ffs. Or ready to die, expensively, of
    course. Same as anything of that age by now, probably.
     
    Pip, Feb 3, 2010
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  11. JackH

    Lozzo Guest

    I remember that bloke, he was a fucking fruit cake to say the least
     
    Lozzo, Feb 3, 2010
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  12. Interesting. I think my Duke has a feed back into the tank. Must look
    some day.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 3, 2010
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  13. <Pedant mode>

    Two, actually.
    Indeed. Some VF1000s have clocked up massive mileages.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 3, 2010
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  14. What startled me, when I peered into my VF500, was that the camchain was
    a duplex affair.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 3, 2010
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  15. JackH

    JackH Guest

     
    JackH, Feb 3, 2010
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  16. JackH

    Lozzo Guest


    Oops, my bad. So two out of thousands, and they were pre-production
    models anyway, so don't count.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 3, 2010
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  17. JackH

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 00:26:22 -0800 (PST), JackH

    snip>
    Get it on Ebay and set the starting price higher than normal because
    I'll be watching for it.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 3, 2010
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  18. JackH

    JackH Guest

    If it got sold, you'd get your *OSM, don't you worry. ;-)
     
    JackH, Feb 3, 2010
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  19. Name wasn't Tibor, by any chance?
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 4, 2010
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