Bad Trike Business

I received permission from a friend, to post this. He and his wife are
having a bad experience with Texas Trikes. The old saying "You get what you
pay for", isn't always necessarily true. Sometimes you pay and get the
shaft.

Their story and pics are here:
http://www.texastrikesreport.com/

If anyone else has had a bad experience with Texas Trikes, David would
probably like to hear about it, before they seek legal counsel.

--
Sunny, IRPK (PK Riders), ISRA #7123
Texas Veterans Assoc., Chapter 3
'02 XVS650A "Deerslayer"
'00 XVS650 "Red"
'99 XVS650A - Joe's "Deerslayer Too"
'84 V30 Magna (parting out)

 

Damn, it looks like a bunch of mismatched pieces of scrap out of the
junk metal bin.

Let us know how they make out Sunny.
--


Don
RCOS# 7
No Riding Today

2000 - Yamaha Venture Millenium Edition
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/radium1.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/banff.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/kananaskis.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/walkercalgary.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/calgarybrowning.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/venture.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/gem.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/highwood.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/reynolds.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/sask.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/osoyoos.htm

 

Yep. They did.

I'll relay your sentiments, Morgan.

--
Sunny, IRPK (PK Riders), ISRA #7123
Texas Veterans Assoc., Chapter 3
'02 XVS650A "Deerslayer"
'00 XVS650 "Red"
'99 XVS650A - Joe's "Deerslayer Too"
'84 V30 Magna (parting out)

 

That's what it looks like to me too. And to top it off, it doesn't even
begin to resemble the one they ordered.

Thanks Don, will do. I believe they will be talking to a lawyer tomorrow.
I'll see them Sunday, when our club gets together and maybe he'll have some
good news.

--
Sunny, IRPK (PK Riders), ISRA #7123
Texas Veterans Assoc., Chapter 3
'02 XVS650A "Deerslayer"
'00 XVS650 "Red"
'99 XVS650A - Joe's "Deerslayer Too"
'84 V30 Magna (parting out)

 

Although I didn't buy any completed bike/trike from :
http://www.motortrike.com/ , I did purchase some
accident repair parts(the kind of parts that get thrown
away when a two wheeler is converted to three).

They were very helpful with my needs, and conducted
the sale very professionally/easily just via email. Of cou-
rse, as you can see, their products seem are very high
quality, and as such, fairly expensive.

Perhaps, when your friends get through their current
dilemma, they might have a look at MotorTrike.

"All disclaimers apply".

Thanks,

Gary

 

This story isn't as bad as some I've heard. And I have to question the
judgement of the buyer, as well as the seller.

Except for the front end, wheels, and seats, the bike seems functionally to
match the pic that the site states is the one they ordered (except for that
horrid green color). I would have to assume that the buyer ordered it that
way.

And for the lack of quality, any test ride or visual inspections of previous
builds would have been spotted easily. I guess the buyer didn't do any.

And I wouldn't have expected much more for $7k.

I feel sorry for their bad experience, tho.

 

No one likes to see anyone get screwed out of their hard earned money..
Knowing the players involved in this transaction, there is probably a great
deal more to it than what is being reported.. The guy who put that thing
together hasn't been heard from, yet..

As being reported, this guy only assembles the trike and is paid for his
labor.. Evidently he has assembled what was supplied by the owner..The front
wheel is mounted into the forks .. There would be no reason to go into wheel
bearings to do that, unless the wheel the customer provided was defective..

hmmm.. Yep .. the other boot hasn't fallen, yet..

Bill Walker
Irving

 

It was pretty clear to me the distinction between only assembling
parts purchased by the owner and building a bike, was nothing more
than a weasel clause to protect him from being held responsible as a
bike builder. I am sure a little research would point out there is a
higher threshold of responsibility being classed as a builder than
simply being one who simply assembles parts.

I'll bet you my last two dollars the builder supplied the parts and
simply invoiced them to the owner separately from the labour charged
for assembly.

More to the point, if my assessment is correct it indicates a higher
level of responsibility for that piece of crap and clearly shows
premeditation of the fraud by the builder.

I agree the owner should have done his due diligence to ensure he was
going to receive a quality product, but even though caveat emptor
applies to all purchases, it does not absolve the seller from a
deliberate attempt to defraud.
--


Don
RCOS# 7
No Riding Today

2000 - Yamaha Venture Millenium Edition
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/radium1.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/banff.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/kananaskis.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/walkercalgary.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/calgarybrowning.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/venture.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/gem.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/highwood.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/reynolds.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/sask.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/osoyoos.htm

 

Thanks Gary, I'll let them know.

--
Sunny, IRPK (PK Riders), ISRA #7123
Texas Veterans Assoc., Chapter 3
'02 XVS650A "Deerslayer"
'00 XVS650 "Red"
'99 XVS650A - Joe's "Deerslayer Too"
'84 V30 Magna (parting out)
Quote of the week, courtesy of Max Ex:
"Ride as fast as you can. That way, you'll stay ahead of all the
accidents."

 

Hey Don, here's part of what the "builder" says on his website, which is
located at:
http://texastrikes.safewebshop.com/next.html

<quote>
" I can also provide a frame with new brakes and neck and ready to add your
own engine, transaxle etc for $1995 or complete rolling chassis for $3995.
The chopper special is built with good used or rebuilt parts, no fenders or
turn signals, Sportster tank for $5995. This is an ideal buy for someone who
wants either an 'old school' chopper or a good running basic trike to which
he can add his own special touches.
Remember-this is YOUR trike so let's build it YOUR way!
Remember that these trikes are built one at a time to your specs and take
time, so order early if there is a specific date you want it completed.
We can upgrade or downgrade these prices by substituting good used parts or
by getting fancy. Communicate with me and we will build a trike tailored to
you. You can pick it up here or I deliver nation wide for 50 cents per
mile."
</quote>

Sounds to me like he gets the parts, from where ever, maybe a junk yard, who
knows.
And to hell with specific date you want it completed by. That's a crock.
They gave "the builder" 3 extensions, then he said it was ready but when
they drove 500+ miles to pick it up, it was just a frame!

If you look at the pics of the "completed trikes", looks like all the pics
are of the same trikes, just different angles, etc.
At least that is how it appears to me and Joe.

You'd be correct.

Again, check out the builder's choice of words:
<quote>
"We can upgrade or downgrade these prices by substituting good used parts or
by getting fancy."
</quote>

It appears that the builder is doing the "substituting" and it isn't
alright. "Good used" must mean crap parts and "fancy" must mean parts that
still have a bit of life left in them.

I haven't known the the "owners" very long but in that short time, we've
become friends with them. He and his wife are real nice folk. Joe and I
met David earlier this month, when we joined our local chapter of the TVA
and we met his wife last Saturday, at the Toy Run. She is a very sweet
lady. I guess they were a bit naive, when they decided to have that guy
build them a "trike". They probably didn't know what to expect but I'm
quite sure they were not expecting to be defrauded.

She really wanted to be riding that trike by now but if you read the story,
they can't get the title to it. Joe has offered to help fix the trike, so
she can ride it. Others have offered help too. Hopefully she'll get it
titled and we'll be able to help her get it on the road.

I offered to put the word out, so others might have second thoughts, if they
are considering a trike by this builder. It's my opinion that he ripped
those folks off. Others can agree, or disagree. My intentions are to help
anyone else make an informed decision, before having a "trike" built by this
builder. "Buyer Beware".

If and when this gets resolved, I'll let you know. Otherwise, that's all I
have to say on this subject.

All the best, for a safe and happy holiday.

--
Sunny, IRPK (PK Riders), ISRA #7123
Texas Veterans Assoc., Chapter 3
'02 XVS650A "Deerslayer"
'00 XVS650 "Red"
'99 XVS650A - Joe's "Deerslayer Too"
'84 V30 Magna (parting out)

 

Well I hope you folks are able to help them get a half decent running
machine to enjoy after all of their headaches. Please let me and the
few others who are genuinely interested know how it all works out.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and Joe too.
--


Don
RCOS# 7
No Riding Today

2000 - Yamaha Venture Millenium Edition
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/radium1.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/banff.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/kananaskis.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/walkercalgary.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/calgarybrowning.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/venture.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/gem.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/highwood.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/reynolds.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/sask.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/osoyoos.htm

 

I certainly will.

Thanks, Don. You're close to the North Pole, so keep an eye out for that
old guy with the red hat and white beard. He looks a lot like this man:
http://www.pkriders.org/images/gazebo1.jpg



--
Sunny, IRPK (PK Riders), ISRA #7123
Texas Veterans Assoc., Chapter 3
'02 XVS650A "Deerslayer"
'00 XVS650 "Red"
'99 XVS650A - Joe's "Deerslayer Too"
'84 V30 Magna (parting out)

 

heh, heh, heh great picture there Sunny.
--


Don
RCOS# 7
No Riding Today

2000 - Yamaha Venture Millenium Edition
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/radium1.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/banff.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/kananaskis.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/walkercalgary.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/calgarybrowning.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/venture.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/gem.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/highwood.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/reynolds.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/sask.htm
http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/osoyoos.htm

 

You ought to know....your dad used it to paint his trailer last year!

 

Isn't that supposed to be "Ho! Ho! Ho!" ? ;-))

That's our friend, John. He's the long distance rider I've spoken of.
Someone once told me that Santa rides a Harley. I have proof.

--
Sunny, IRPK (PK Riders), ISRA #7123
Texas Veterans Assoc., Chapter 3
'02 XVS650A "Deerslayer"
'00 XVS650 "Red"
'99 XVS650A - Joe's "Deerslayer Too"
'84 V30 Magna (parting out)

 

Albert, don't forget someone on here gave over $1000 for handlebars for
their little Honda.... so $7000 would seem about right, to that expert
individual.

....louie

 

<chuckle> The little Honda didn't look so "little" out there on that gravel
road, did it.. Barhide ? LOL... At least it wasn't "little" enough for you
to venture down off that dry hill while it was in the area. huh ? Some
did, you didn't.. Maybe next time..

 

Genuwine HD springer forks new retail at $2500... aftermarket seems to run
from $700 up to $1500.
Add in the cost of cast wheels that are shown in the "as ordered" picture,
and the price gets closer to the stated $7k.

 

Take a close look at the ones that you are involved with in this
discussion..

1. Sunny Williams is the OP for this thread.. Her claim is that some
friends of hers, who is either cyber friends she hasn't met in person, or
they are fine people who she met just a short while ago.. She has helpfully
volunteered Joe to take care of all the problems with the trike those "new
friends' took a screwing on.. hmmm.. Wonder what Joe Williams will be
charging.. Meantime.. the builder of the trike hasn't been heard from..
chances are, those folks got just what they paid for..

2. Albert Nurick is wading in with his usual nonsense.. whatever or whoever
it takes for him to make a "showing" against anyone named Walker.. LOL...
Now, this one is a real expert.. He can't ride his crotch rocket 200 + miles
where he is apt to run into either or both Walkers.. He can't change the oil
in his crotch rocket without pinging for help and advice.. The epitome of
usenet pussy is now decidedly a trike wizard and he can tell by half assed
pictures that those folks got screwed.. He doesn't know the first damned
thing about any agreement those people had with that builder or any of the
details of what they furnished to be assembled by him.. hmmm.. Nurick needs
to get enough practice on his crotch rocket so that he can ride far enough
to resolve his Walker issues, once and for all..

3. Last but not least is the louie character.. LMAO... This one is a
genuine, certifiable loon.. Here is an old fat boy with an ass on him as
wide as a long axe handle, professional barhide that finally got his hands
on enough money to buy him a beer joint in Breckenridge, Tx. .. of all
places.. This one loves to stir pots and sling snot at anyone named Walker..
hmmm .. So long as it is on a newsgroup.. When the chips were down and the
Walkers made the ride to Breckenridge in July.. dynamite wouldn't blow that
chickenshit bastard off that old dry hill to confront either or both of
them.. He stayed as close to that trailer house as he could, even though
several of his buddies did come down the road.. Usenet is usenet.. when it
gets down to put up or shut up.. what can anyone expect from a professional
barfly.??

Those are the ones that you are discussing this trike business with.. As
usual, Sunny doesn't want to discuss it anymore and has said all that she
has to say about it.. All the discrepancies in the story has not been
explored, but as it rolls on and on .. it is becoming SOP for Sunny
Williams.. She smells a buck in it.. 'Nuff said..

 

Bill,

You missed a couple of other people responding to this thread, lol. Even
though neither of them have a horse in this race either, it hasn't stopped
them from commenting. Let me complete the list for you:

4) Bill Walker, who hasn't had a 'coherent' thought in his head since
about 1942, lol. His rants and blustering have been directed at anyone he
happens to disagree with, or have ever disagreed with him. Any ill feelings
he might have for individual will culminate in personal attacks and name
calling. He's never failed to go directly to the bottom of the barrel to
find 'tid bits' to toss around as fact. If he can't find those tid bits he's
not beyond making some up, just to bolster his argument. Don't ever try and
point out the errors in his ways, that's the quickest way to find yourself
on his shit list, lol

5) Brian Walker, a chip off the old block. He's a Bill Walker with
'muscles', lol. What ever he can't back up with fact, he'll back up with
B/S. If you question his bullshit long enough, he'll be happy to offer to
take you out behind the barn, just to prove his point. He struts his ass
around like a little banty rooster (or more like a chicken with his head cut
off). What he doesn't realize is that no one takes him anymore seriously
then they do his old man, lol.

And fianlly, seeing as how I've commented ... 3) Vic, that good looking guy
from Michigan. He's always right, even though he can't spell worth a beens,
lol. I'm sure you've all heard Bill and Brian describe him, and read his
posts from time to time, so you be the judge

As far as the topic of this thread goes, I hope the problem between the
buyer and the seller works out to both their satisfaction. Not because of
who's arguing for who's cause, but because I've been in situations like
this, and it's no fun. For anyone to try and make their point appear any
more valid by attacking the charactor of another, is childish. I think we
should all be mature enough to realize that if our opinions won't stand on
their own merits, draging some one else through the mud, sure won't help.

Vic