Battery overcharging?

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Technical Discussion' started by Michael R. Kesti, Aug 10, 2004.

  1. Three times this summer I have had to add water to my 1987 Goldwing's
    (GL1200A Aspencade) battery. I understand that this is often due to the
    battery being overcharged and boiling the electrolyte. The bike's previous
    owner installed a volt meter that I observe to indicate between 11 and 12
    volts when idling and between 12 and 13 volts when above about 2000 RPM.
    With sustained crusing above about 2500 RPM, the meter will rise to just
    short of 14 volts and stay there until I have to come to a stop when it
    then returns to the idling and mid-RPM levels previously described. I
    never observe more than 14 volts indicated.

    This seems to say that the voltage regulator is working properly, or does
    it? On sustained cruise, should the battery become sufficiently charged
    that the regulator no longer needs to supply more than the battery's
    nominal 12 volts?

    In short, does the described behaviour indicate overcharging that is the
    likely cause of the battery boiling off water?

    Other than a leak, which I am certain is not occuring, is there another
    explanation for the water loss?
     
    Michael R. Kesti, Aug 10, 2004
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  2. Michael R. Kesti

    Mark Olson Guest

    I am not a battery expert...

    It *is* normal for conventional batteries to boil off _some_ water
    under normal conditions. How much, I don't know. I'd say having
    to add water three times in a season does indicate overcharging,
    unless you ride exclusively in very high temperatures.

    Here is a simplified chart from Yuasa's technical manual for batteries,
    note full charge voltage varies between different battery chemistries:

    Battery Voltage Reading Using a Voltmeter
    State of Sealed CX &
    Charge VRLA YuMicron Conventional
    100% 13.0v 12.7v 12.6v
    75% 12.8v 12.5v 12.4v
    50% 12.5v 12.2v 12.1v
    25% 12.2v 12.0v 11.9v
    0% 12.0v or less 11.9v or less 11.8v or less

    You can find this excellent manual (and other valuable info) at:

    http://www.yuasabattery.com/literature.asp

    My guess is either the voltmeter isn't reading the true battery voltage
    due to voltage drop from being hooked up somewhere other than directly
    to the battery, and/or there are some high resistance connections
    that need to be cleaned up, and/or the voltage regulator is defective.

    Yes, once the battery is fully charged, in an ideal system, the
    charging system would deliver (at the battery terminals) exactly the
    same voltage as a fully charged battery sitting on the bench with
    no load on it. However, due to the fact that battery voltage varies
    with temperature, and unless the regulator has a remote temperature
    sensor glued to the battery, the reasonable thing to do is to set
    the charging voltage to be slightly higher than the exact break
    even point. This does mean that some water will be boiled off,
    but hopefully not so much as to ruin the battery. The alternative
    would be to set the voltage lower than what is needed for full charge,
    which would eliminate the problem of boiling off water, but it would
    make the battery have less capacity and not last as long.

    You are to be commended for actually looking at your battery more
    than once per season. I would check all wiring connections carefully
    and use a precision voltmeter to check the true charging voltage.
    If everything checked out, I'd probably just continue to add water on
    a regular basis, or depending on the voltage readings I was seeing,
    I might just spring for a sealed VRLA battery, which likes a slightly
    higher charging voltage.
     
    Mark Olson, Aug 10, 2004
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  3. I think you shouldn't be seeing anything below 12 volts.
    You ought to check this with a voltmeter connected directly
    to the battery terminals but unless there's a large drain
    at the point where the voltmeter's hooked up, those readings
    are too low. Check the battery voltage with the bike shut off.
    It should be somewhere around 12.5 .

    There's a good chance the battery's shot and operating with one cell
    completely shorted out and the charging system's working its ass
    off to bring 5 cells to a state of charge that would be appropriate
    for 6.

    You could test the specific gravity of the individual cells with a
    hydrometer to confirm this. If you have a friend with a similar bike,
    borrowing his battery and checking the behavior would also confirm
    the problem. If it were me, I think I'd test and probably replace the
    battery.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Aug 17, 2004
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