Battery Troubles 02 R1

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by AlexV, Nov 14, 2005.

  1. AlexV

    AlexV Guest

    Hey Everyone,

    Got a question for you all. 2 months ago I hoped on my 2002 R1 (5000 hard
    kms) to go home from work and I had a flat battery. The bike simply would
    not start. Put a new battery in and everything was fine. Today I again hoped
    on my bike to go home and the same thing, flat battery. Got a lift home,
    picked up the jumper leads and the beast started straight away.

    Now, I ride 6 kms five days a week to work in the crap Sydney traffic at
    crawling speeds most of the time and I think this has a lot to do with the
    problem. Being a litre bike I believe that it simply does not have time to
    charge the battery. Am I correct in this assumption?? Or do I have an
    electrical problem? I did install a Cheetah (crap) alarm just before my
    first battery problem, although I don't think this has anything to do with
    it, or does it?? The alarm was going nuts when I returned to the bike,
    turning on even after I disarmed it. The alarm is supposed to have a low
    battery turn off or something!!

    What's your opinion on this??

    Cheers,
    AlexV
     
    AlexV, Nov 14, 2005
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  2. AlexV

    IK Guest

    Oh, yeah, it does.

    Either rip the alarm out ('02 R1's are so yesterday; who steals them any
    more), or start riding the bike a lot more.
     
    IK, Nov 14, 2005
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  3. AlexV

    AlexV Guest

    Thanks for the reply IK. Why does the alarm drain so much battery? If I hook
    up a charger to the battery do you think I can save it?

    AlexV
     
    AlexV, Nov 14, 2005
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  4. AlexV

    IK Guest

    It doesn't actually chug much power, but if it's running all day while
    the bike's parked out on the street in the CBD, and all night in your
    inner-city garage, it adds up.
    Only one way to find out. Those gel-cell batteries Yamaha put in the
    R-sisters are tough, so there's hope for it yet; the one out of my '00
    model R1 had enough juice left in it to start another R1 after sitting
    on concrete for something like five months.

    All things considered, though, a couple of laps of Ye Olde Roade will
    achieve the same effect as leaving the battery on the charger overnight,
    and they'll do so in less time and with a higher fun coefficient.

    If all you're doing is splitting traffic to work and back during the
    week, and the round trip's only 12km, in your position, I'd think about
    getting a scooter.
     
    IK, Nov 14, 2005
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    sharkey Guest

    Just fucking walk!

    -----sharks (or, well, ride a pushie.)
     
    sharkey, Nov 14, 2005
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  6. could be, running at low speed with the headlight on and all
    twill...wot IK said
    the alarm will draw 50mA or so, continued operation will run down the
    battery, check current draw on alarm

    The alarm was going nuts when I returned to the bike,
    it may well have a battery back up siren, in the case of a flat battery
    the siren will assume it has been disconnected and sound until its own
    battery goes flat, unless you turn it off with the key

    usually when battery runs down; there may be enough power available for
    the alarm to turn off, then you try to start the bike, the voltage goes
    right down, you release the starter cos it wont start, the volts come up
    a bit and the alarm turns back on
    not right up on current alarms, but it would be unusual for an alarm to
    have a low battery turning off feature
    get a trickle charger and put it on at night...or at work, whichever's
    easier
     
    fulliautomatix, Nov 14, 2005
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  7. AlexV

    Grump Guest

    Although I'm not familiar with the specs of your bike:
    If you're riding with the headlight on at low revs & possibly your fan is
    also coming on, on top of the alarm's power consumption, that would explain
    the battery drain.
    Either using a trickle charger overnight or a Day headlamp cover instead of
    your lights may solve the problem.
    Grump.
     
    Grump, Nov 14, 2005
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  8. AlexV

    ck Guest


    so is that 5000 k's of hard crawling?

    ck
     
    ck, Nov 14, 2005
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  9. AlexV

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    < applause>

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Nov 15, 2005
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  10. AlexV

    Shep© Guest

    Do you have a mulit-meter?
    If so check the charging voltage across the battery with the bike at
    idle will all things on.As a rule-of-thumb a standard 12v bike system
    should show around 14v + a little.Both my bikes run at 14.2v on idle
    with all gear on and these are 25 year old bikes but new-ish
    batteries.

    Check you motorcycle manual/troubleshooting section for correct
    parameters etc.

    I've also converted as many bulbs as possible to LEDS to help the old
    charging systems,
    http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/cx500/leds1.html

    This sounds like a charging system/battery fault to me because even
    short regular journeys should no flatten that fast IME otherwise every
    commuter whether in a car or on a bike would have been complaining for
    years,which they haven't.
     
    Shep©, Nov 15, 2005
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  11. AlexV

    Knobdoodle Guest

    ~
    No I measure mulits by hand.
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 15, 2005
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  12. AlexV

    Shep© Guest

    Heh,Heh :D
    Twerp ;-)
     
    Shep©, Nov 15, 2005
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  13. AlexV

    G-S Guest


    It's not necessary to measure them...

    you can make a close estimate by checking the grottiness of the flannies.

    G-S
     
    G-S, Nov 15, 2005
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