Battery Water.

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Technical Discussion' started by mike, Jul 20, 2010.

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  1. mike

    ian field Guest

    I had more than enough trouble after fitting a Cibie H4 kit to my CB200.
     
    ian field, Jul 20, 2010
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  2. mike

    The Older Gentleman Guest

    Jesus. Something with a CD175 alternator and a larrapping great 65w
    headlight bulb. Yes, I can see that would be fun :))

    Remember that Ogri cartoon in whcih Malcolm installed a belt-driven
    generator-powered searchlight to his old Triumph?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 20, 2010
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  3. mike

    ian field Guest


    As an "almost" solution I fitted a 3-PH rectifier/regulator pack from a
    later model and connected each alternator coil to its own arm of the
    rectifier with the common connection to the third.

    Its the thyristor type regulator, not the field coil control type so it
    works with any PM type alternator, both coils are permanently on the
    rectifier and the regulator catches any time its run with side lights or no
    lights.

    If I run with main beam all the time and only start it with the starter, I
    have to take the battery out and charge it every now and then.

    Its still on the back yard with a rusted through swingarm and siezed in
    bolt - so the as new battery is now entering its second year on the
    Optimate.
     
    ian field, Jul 20, 2010
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  4. mike

    ` Guest

    Real world experience, Mr. Peter Puffer.
     
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    S'mee Guest

    So NOW you back up and claim you weren't working on the project in any
    aspect...keep digging loser.
     
    S'mee, Jul 21, 2010
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    S'mee Guest

    Pray tell could you point me to a set? I'm not happy with the lighting
    on the wing at night and am considering upgrading the photon
    projectors. I'm hoping to achieve "set fiberglass on fire" with low
    beams only.
     
    S'mee, Jul 21, 2010
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  7. mike

    S'mee Guest

    yeah right...keeping your vibrator running.
     
    S'mee, Jul 21, 2010
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    The Older Gentleman Guest

    Your crappy old 1970s clunkers don't count.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 21, 2010
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  9. mike

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    Permanent magnet alternators and rectifier regulators haven't changed
    in the last 40 years, asshole.

    The voltage output of a PM alternator depends upon magnetic field
    strength, number of windings in the coils, and the speed at which the
    windings and magnetic fields intersect each other.

    Your *assumption* that the OP was saying that the PM alternator on his
    VF500C was putting out 14.29 volts at idle is ludicrous.

    A PM alternator *will NOT* produce enough voltage at idle RPM to reach
    14.29 volts and then shunt excess voltage to ground.

    If a PM alternator was *designed* to produce that much voltage at
    idle, it would need (a) more windings, or (b) super magnets in the
    flywheel.

    And any typical RR with a zener diode triggering one or more silicon
    control rectifiers would be shunting excess voltage to ground *all the
    time.*

    If an engineer needed 14.29 volts at idle RPM, he would use an excited
    field
    alternator instead...
     
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  10. mike

    The Older Gentleman Guest


    Wrong bike and wrong quoted boltage. You really aren't any good at this.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 21, 2010
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  11. mike

    The Older Gentleman Guest

    Argh!
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 21, 2010
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  12. mike

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  14. mike

    Rob Kleinschmidt Guest

    The battery water keeps getting boiled off.

    The guy had a problem with overcharging.

    You talked about everything else in the world except
    overcharging and concluded by advising him to buy
    a new battery.

    Somebody points out that you missed the problem
    and rather than fessing up, you talk about everything
    else but the fact that you missed the overcharging problem.

    See a pattern here ?

    May the baby Jesus shut your mouth and open your
    mind, dude.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Jul 21, 2010
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  15. mike

    S'mee Guest

    poor little shithead upset that he's wrong yet again and whining still
    more about it. Oh and yeah they have changed...they are more efficient.
     
    S'mee, Jul 21, 2010
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    The battery water keeps getting boiled off.

    The guy had a problem with overcharging.

    You talked about everything else in the world except
    overcharging and concluded by advising him to buy
    a new battery.

    Somebody points out that you missed the problem
    and rather than fessing up, you talk about everything
    else but the fact that you missed the overcharging problem.

    See a pattern here ?

    Yes, most certainly do see a pattern.

    How could anybody miss what's been going on in rmt for the last ten
    years?

    Neil Murray, the self-styled "Older Gentleman" knows *nothing* about
    "electrickery" (or physics, either), but he sure does like to *argue*,
    doesn't he?

    I stand firmly behind my analysis of battery plate sulfation.

    No matter how much *water* Mike (the OP) adds to his weakened
    electrolyte, it will *never* combine with the lead sulfate which
    covers and penetrates the spongy lead plates of his much abused
    battery.

    No matter what technique he uses for replenishing the boiled-off
    water, it's just going to keep on boiling off, relocation of the
    "kelvin link" or not.
     
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    S'mee Guest

    He's got baby jesus right where he wants him...that little super sized
    baby jesus butt plug is all the way in I'd bet.
    http://www.divine-interventions.com/baby.php
     
    S'mee, Jul 21, 2010
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    The Older Gentleman Guest

    Yes, *we know this*.

    That'll be a whoosh then.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 21, 2010
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    ` Guest

    "Whoosh" is an apt description of the sound that issues from a well
    worn anal sphincter.

    If there was such a noise, *you* made it, Goosey Lucy...
     
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  20. mike

    ian field Guest

    The battery water keeps getting boiled off.

    The guy had a problem with overcharging.

    You talked about everything else in the world except
    overcharging and concluded by advising him to buy
    a new battery.

    Somebody points out that you missed the problem
    and rather than fessing up, you talk about everything
    else but the fact that you missed the overcharging problem.

    See a pattern here ?

    Yes, most certainly do see a pattern.

    How could anybody miss what's been going on in rmt for the last ten
    years?

    Neil Murray, the self-styled "Older Gentleman" knows *nothing* about
    "electrickery" (or physics, either), but he sure does like to *argue*,
    doesn't he?

    I stand firmly behind my analysis of battery plate sulfation.

    No matter how much *water* Mike (the OP) adds to his weakened
    electrolyte, it will *never* combine with the lead sulfate which
    covers and penetrates the spongy lead plates of his much abused
    battery.

    No matter what technique he uses for replenishing the boiled-off
    water, it's just going to keep on boiling off, relocation of the
    "kelvin link" or not.


    --------------------------------------

    Its next to impossible to get any current to flow through a sulphated
    battery, so its doudtful he could get the electrolyte to gas away to any
    significant degree - let alone boil.

    If its overcharging to the extent that significant amounts of electrolyte
    are gassed away there's rather less chance of it being sulphated.
     
    ian field, Jul 21, 2010
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