Beware Elderly Corolla Drivers

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Chris, May 10, 2004.

  1. Chris

    sharkey Guest

    Well, that sounds like a good idea. Don't forget your donor card!

    ----sharks
     
    sharkey, May 13, 2004
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  2. Chris

    sharkey Guest

    I read it as "Be where all garlic roo lad rivers!", and
    I don't understand this shit at all!

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, May 13, 2004
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  3. I'm glad I never set mine or I'd be confused!
     
    Pisshead Pete, May 14, 2004
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  4. Chris

    Rusty Guest

    Unless some of your head bolts are also holding down the camshaft
    retainers. As is the case with my bike. Still, the only time I've
    checked the torque on the head bolts was when I put the cams back in.

    Rusty
     
    Rusty, May 14, 2004
    #44
  5. Chris

    John Guest

    Rusty, interesting.....what breed of bike?
     
    John, May 14, 2004
    #45
  6. Chris

    Moike Guest

     
    Moike, May 14, 2004
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  7. Chris

    Chris Guest

    take it you like zx6's

    I don't touch people's bikes, just enjoy riding past it to park mine ;-)
     
    Chris, May 14, 2004
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  8. Chris

    Toosmoky Guest

    It does if one iota = one thou. Serious racing engine builders bolt
    torque plates to the block deck surface before boring cylinders to
    simulate the stress on the block as it would be with the head in place.
    (think one inch thick steel plates with holes in them for the boring tools)

    Some even bolt all ancillary equipment to the block, waterpumps,
    bellhousing, crank caps, etc.

    Although the distance from the cam to the follower in an OHC head is
    small, it could be affected by movement in the head (particularly an
    alloy head) given that stresses in the head will vary. Proximity to bolt
    holes, thickness, water jacket location, etc...the cam caps are torqued,
    the intake and exhaust are torqued...

    Maybe I wouldn't go that far but I'd certainly check the clearances
    after reassembly...
     
    Toosmoky, May 14, 2004
    #48
  9. Course not, he's still a newbie!

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, May 14, 2004
    #49
  10. What?

    So when do _you_ do it?

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, May 14, 2004
    #50
  11. Fuggin' newbie!

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, May 14, 2004
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  12. Chris

    Rusty Guest

    Honda VF500F. The four centre head bolts also hold in the cam chain guide.

    The useless things we learn. :)
     
    Rusty, May 15, 2004
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  13. Chris

    Chris Guest

    Slightly different scenario.

    Me in truck
    Motorcyclist looks at sign on back of truck "if you can't see my mirrors I
    can't see you"
    Motorcyclist then proceeds to sit right in my blind spot.
    Me several minutes later.... Is he still there? Dunno. Can't see him.
    I proceed to move left slowly just in case he's still there.
    Zip motorcyclist appears from blind spot yelling abuse at me.
    **** it I shoulda squished the dumb bastard.

    Chris
     
    Chris, May 15, 2004
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  14. Chris

    Stoneshop Guest

    If the head's been off, yes, I retorque the next two rounds of valve clearance
    setting. But that's mainly for the head gasket settling, and getting the
    cylinder bolt torque (= stretch tension) right again means the whole rocker assy
    moves towards the camshaft a couple of thou. Sufficient to throw off the valve
    gap.

    (Owner of the other brand of agricultural motorcycle)

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    Stoneshop, May 15, 2004
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  15. Come on Zeebee - give it up... the real reason they see is you your
    topless on the guzzi :p

    Chris: eye contact is good, but dont ride yourself into an accident
    trying to establish it. When you have a larger capacity bike, then
    passing ppl like that is over twice as quick and all that old bitty
    would have got was a fright and a lesson in remembering to head check as
    you zipped past her.
     
    Baron Von Rotter, May 16, 2004
    #55
  16. Hi chris, if you ride with the cars, your treated like one, only the
    drivers forget to look for you. A driver is conditioned to look for a
    large cross section of 4 wheeled metal, you are about 1/5 of that, so
    they dont see you.

    The safest place is to hang back, or get up the front of em all where
    they will see you. Im an advocate of lane splitting to the front of the
    lights... but make sure you have the mumbo to get out of the way of them
    when your off the line. There is nothing more frustrating than a
    dickhead on a 250 Rossi replica blade making his way up the front on La
    trobe street melbourne... only to be blown off by the Underdog Leathers
    battlewagon 3 times before the concept sunk in... and even then......
    with all the best intentions... a 250 will not blow off a V6 kraut
    mobile with a **** like me at the wheel.

    :p
     
    Baron Von Rotter, May 16, 2004
    #56
  17. In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 16 May 2004 10:53:45 +1000
    Don't be silly. I war an openface - I *know* how much insects hurt at
    60kmh....
    What, and he slams straight into the parked car he almost didn't see? :)

    Wouldn't that be embarassing!

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, May 16, 2004
    #57
  18. True true, but at least he would be doing it on a bike with horsepower :p
     
    Baron Von Rotter, May 16, 2004
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  19. Is there _really_ "a couple of thou" in "head gasket settling"? I'm
    surprised... 'course that doesn't make much difference to me, the
    Monster doesn't have head gaskets... (and the cylinder base gaskets are
    sheet aluminium, I'd bet theres less than a tenth of a thou "settling"
    in them).
    But I thought Hoggleys ran hydraulic lifters???

    ;-)

    big
     
    Iain Chalmers, May 17, 2004
    #59
  20. :)

    big
     
    Iain Chalmers, May 17, 2004
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