Bike apprenticeships?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by T i m, Jun 9, 2008.

  1. T i m

    Lozzo Guest

    They are said to be very reliable and look quite well nailed together,
    but the styling is awful.
    Give my regards to Ann at Burwins when you see her - lovely lady.

    --
    Lozzo the velologist
    Suzuki SV650S K5
    Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
    Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
    Suzuki GSXR750 L
    Suzuki TS50X
    Suzuki TS50X
     
    Lozzo, Jun 10, 2008
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    T i m Guest

    Ah, thanks.
    I think the traily looking one is ok but the SR125 looking one isn't
    so good. It depends what you want I guess, summat cheap and reliable
    or summat more expensive and pretty?
    Will do and she is (Martin is ok too <g>). Her tea is better than
    Martins though. ;-)

    All the best ..

    T i m

    p.s. When I rebuilt the shop-burnt ETZ 251 Saxon Tour I was
    practically given, they found pretty well everything for it in one
    go. Cheap as well.
     
    T i m, Jun 10, 2008
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    Lozzo Guest

    That's the nice thing about Ann, she always makes you a nice cuppa as
    soon as you arrive. I used to be her Nitro helmets rep.

    You're right, Martin is a nice guy but I can't comment on his tea
    making ability.


    --
    Lozzo the velologist
    Suzuki SV650S K5
    Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
    Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
    Suzuki GSXR750 L
    Suzuki TS50X
    Suzuki TS50X
     
    Lozzo, Jun 10, 2008
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    T i m Guest

    Well I don't think that was too far from the truth Dave. I don't think
    the likes of Messerschmitt, Heinkel and BMW were allowed to make
    anything war related (after the 2WW) so filled in time making other
    things .. like strange bubble cars. ;-)

    Sitting in my KR200 feels very much like what it must have been like
    sitting in an old plate of the time, steering yoke, small flat screen
    and plexiglass dome with all round vision. Even the wheel arches
    looked like cut off wings!

    Not sure I'd drive it today with the same enthusiasm as I did when I
    was 17.

    A mate who had one and I went up to an IMR at Wickstead Park in
    Leicester. Great to see 50+ Scmitts there and fun to run their slalom
    / control course. Mate and I came joint first but then we drove like
    that all the time anyway! ;-)

    All the best ..

    T i m

    p.s. The Concourse winner had hand painted his Schmitt black with
    something like 15 coats of brush on Belco(?) paint. His engine
    compartment had a better finish than the outside of most of the other
    cars!
     
    T i m, Jun 10, 2008
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    Lady Nina Guest

    <breaks own resolution to stay out of the thread>

    She needs to be able to get herself there on time or face the
    consequences of being late.

    Last week youngest (14) set her alarm incorrectly and wanted a lift to
    school. I refused on the grounds that she needed to learn to deal with
    what happens if you make a mistake. What I did do (after trying to
    convince her to do it herself [1]) was phone the school to say she was
    running late and could they make sure someone was there to open the
    bike sheds for her.

    [1] It led to a very useful conversation about taking responsibility
    and accepting that sometimes things don't go to plan and you have to
    know how to deal with it. It also identified an issue about using the
    phone for 'official' conversations [2] which she is now going to
    practice in less stressed circumstances.

    [2] 'I can't use the phone' 'yes you can, I've seen the phone bills!'
     
    Lady Nina, Jun 10, 2008
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    T i m Guest

    And lunch if you happen to be helping them at their house. A very
    hospitable couple indeed. ;-)
    Ah. Small world eh Zozzo.
    Nice but ... em shall we say .. preoccupied? ;-) Like, you might be
    offered a cup of tea but you might never see it, but you would get yer
    engine rebuilt though!

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Jun 10, 2008
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  7. T i m

    Lozzo Guest

    Which is exactly what I'd have done for any of mine. We never
    molly-coddled our kids, we gave them the best education we could afford
    and everything they needed, but not all they wanted. I think they've
    turned out really well balanced as a result.

    --
    Lozzo the velologist
    Suzuki SV650S K5
    Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
    Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
    Suzuki GSXR750 L
    Suzuki TS50X
    Suzuki TS50X
     
    Lozzo, Jun 10, 2008
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  8. T i m

    Lozzo Guest

    That's a really nice gaff they have, beautiful surroundings. Heck of a
    trip in by bike every day though.
    He's a very busy man, with so much running through his head at once.


    --
    Lozzo the velologist
    Suzuki SV650S K5
    Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
    Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
    Suzuki GSXR750 L
    Suzuki TS50X
    Suzuki TS50X
     
    Lozzo, Jun 10, 2008
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    TD Guest

    Er, that's me (except I'm someone's son, not daughter). I don't think I'm
    some kind of over-protected ****. Having old parents has pros (they instill
    proper values) as well as cons (they die sooner)[1].

    [1] Now /that's/ a generalisation.

    --
    TD
    1991 VFR400R NC30 (black and red)
    2001 ZX-9R (red and black)
    1999 M5 (neither black nor red)
    Missing: SOB, Unreliable Italian exotica, Lardy tourer
     
    TD, Jun 10, 2008
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  10. T i m

    Lady Nina Guest

    <growls>

    <steps away>
     
    Lady Nina, Jun 10, 2008
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    Adrian Guest

    Migod - how did she manage to find her way there and back?
    Not quite. I _choose_ to move 150 miles away from them, when I went to
    Uni. Nearest I applied to was about 70 miles away.

    When my little brother left for Uni, he choose to go 200 miles the other
    direction.
     
    Adrian, Jun 10, 2008
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    T i m Guest

    Yes, I understand LN, however the consequences would have done nothing
    to have made her act any differently. Being given detention just meant
    she could finish her homework at school rather than doing it at home,
    and judging by the pressure they put on her to go into sixth form they
    realistically weren't about to do much else. FWIW, she had very good
    attendance (on her own) and was one of the few to wear her uniform to
    spec (because she enjoyed to be different) ;-)
    A good ploy and we have done the exact same.
    Yep, we talk stuff though also.
    LOL

    Because she is on PAYG we recently cut the fixed phone line that was
    left over in her room from when her big sister was here. I then
    replaced that with a VOIP phone so she can speak to her b/f (on the
    voip phone I supplied him he lives on little money with his Mum and 2
    brothers) whenever she likes for free.
    LOL

    Another thought. We are (partly) of the belief that kids are being
    forced to grow up way too fast these. That's not to say that you can't
    encourage them to try to be grown on certain things but having the
    opportunity to still be kids now an again is also good.

    Anyway, I'm now being hassled to go out with her and get some new
    wellies [1], then we'll get the runner beans, cabbage, potatoes and
    tomato plants I have waiting out the back in the ground while it's not
    raining or too hot! We are also going to test lay some slabs we were
    given because it looks like we can't do much re raised beds for under
    80 quid and that sorta defeats the idea of this project (cheap easy
    veg).

    All the best ..

    T i m

    [1] We were going to do this the other day pre going to the
    Horticultural Centre open day as the weather had been very wet over
    the previous week. I suggested we first try Homebase (as we had seen a
    fair selection there) but she thought Tescos might be cheaper. So
    later we went to Tescos,(on the way to her b/f) they didn't sell them
    so she had to go without. We later talked about the 'bird in the hand'
    ...
     
    T i m, Jun 10, 2008
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    T i m Guest

    Shame, we are a close family ... ;-)

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Jun 10, 2008
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    T i m Guest

    LOL .. come on, bring it on (now we have gone soooo far OT) ;-)

    Hey, I've never said I'm a perfect parent or that we have done the
    exact right thing for our kid(s), however, they are all different and
    it not always possible to treat them all the same (as I'm sure you
    know).

    Some are full of confidence and throw themselves headlong at anything,
    possibly without thinking things through and others prefer to wait and
    watch, not to make the same mistakes as others etc.

    Anyway, gotta go ...

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Jun 10, 2008
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    cat Guest

    It might be a silly question, but why are *you* here asking all these
    questions when she could be?
     
    cat, Jun 10, 2008
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  16. Hand-painting is a much overlooked and forgotten art - something I've
    done in the past, but not taken as much care over as that; even so, I've
    had decent results.

    The utterly worst one I've come across was a white Vauxhall estate in
    Lunnon traffic. As I pulled up beside it, it was obvious there was
    somthing not quite right with the paintjob. Hand-painted, it was. With a
    shovel, by the look of it.
    --
    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

    "It's a moron working with power tools.
    How much more suspenseful can you get?"
    - House
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jun 10, 2008
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    T i m Guest

    A very sensible question Cat.

    She, like my Mrs, can't see the point of "talking to people on the
    net" (and I didn't use their exact words <g>), would rather be doing
    other things or getting answers other ways and there are times when I
    have to agree with them (like when you ask about motorbikes and get
    parenting advice). ;-)

    But this is the interwebby, that's how it works and I'm happy with
    that.

    Secondly, I'm am the engineer of the family and both wife and daughter
    trust the advice I give them. However they often get a choice as I try
    to provide several viable solutions.

    In the instance of motorcycles, cars or technology etc I will do the
    groundwork (because I am interested and know what to ask / say) and
    offer them my results. When it comes to paperwork or scheduling stuff
    it's the Mrs (I have no interest). If it comes to decorating /
    painting our Daughter has a better eye and more interested in it than
    either of us.

    Daughter is a bit 'up in the air' at the moment so we are trying to
    offer advice and guidance where appropriate. Part of helping her on
    her way is getting her a car / bike licence. Part of that is finding a
    suitable bike for learning, something she can feel confident using and
    handling, both on the move and whilst parking in often less than ideal
    circumstances (we don't have a big house or garden).

    And we're back in the room. ;-)

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Jun 10, 2008
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    T i m Guest

    It's weird how some things go isn't it. My mate used to paint his
    stock-cars with Re-Paint and often the finish was crap (even for a
    stock-car). Then he tried Dulux gloss and it looked perfect! An
    immaculate Jago Jeep at the recent Stonleigh (sp?) show had it's
    chassis painted with basic household paint and you could see your
    reflection in it (not good for me but ..).
    LOL.

    My Rover looks pretty rough now (poor paint job before I got it) but
    spending any money on it isn't going to make it any faster or cheaper
    to run but would make it more of a target for the skum [1].

    All the best ..

    T i m

    [1] A while back a good few cars around us got keyed (and I'm talking
    all round here, bonnet boot etc) and they left mine alone as it looked
    like it had already been done!
     
    T i m, Jun 10, 2008
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    Adrian Guest

    Mmmm. Austrian ancestors, by any chance?
     
    Adrian, Jun 10, 2008
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    T i m Guest

    If you can't comprehend the idea of a family that actually enjoys
    being with each other without sinking to the level of that other twat
    then I really pity you.

    All the best ..

    T i m

    p.s. I believe there are some good counseling services out there that
    may be able to help you overcome your bitterness.
     
    T i m, Jun 10, 2008
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