Bike dithering again

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Lady Nina, Sep 10, 2008.

  1. Lady Nina

    Lady Nina Guest

    To get the ZXR through an MOT and nothing more (so still with the
    going to break at some point engine) will take about £600 (definitely
    needs exhaust system, chain & sprockets, 2 new tyres, 2 new front
    indicators, fork seals) to get me to the state it was for the last
    elephant so it can be used for the upcoming elephant.

    I'm just checking there's no SOB that's small enough for me and 400cc
    (or more) that I could pick up with an MOT for that. Basically I'm
    trying to talk myself out of what I really want to do which is get the
    ZXR going. Saint Jude is having a field day.
     
    Lady Nina, Sep 10, 2008
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  2. Lady Nina

    Champ Guest

    Is it blowing?
    Not MOTable
    OK, I'll allow you this lot.
    Ah, so you want it Elefant-able, not just MOTable

    Seriously, tho - tyres and chain&sprox should be considered
    consumables. Should be able to get both for 250 quid. Fork seals are
    cheap, but just need to be fitted, and so are pattern indicators.
    Then all you need is a man with a welder to fix whatever the problem
    is with exhaust.
     
    Champ, Sep 10, 2008
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  3. Lady Nina

    Steve Parry Guest

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/zxr-400-micron-stainless-steel-exhaust-system-zxr400_W0QQitemZ220279932550QQ


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    Steve Parry, Sep 10, 2008
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  4. Lady Nina

    Lozzo Guest

    Yes it is. I've got far worse through an MOT for less.
    Not just blowing, the collector box has pretty much fucked off.
    Yes they are, The MOT tester's manual says:

    "When rejecting transmision and associated components for wear,
    defects, security or adjustment, the severity of the defect should be
    where early failure is likely"

    LN's C+S were dead at the last MOT, I'm surprised they lasted this long.
     
    Lozzo, Sep 10, 2008
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  5. Lady Nina

    zymurgy Guest

    The MOT man went right round my chain checking for tight spots (there
    weren't any) so not sure this is the case.

    My other 'lenient' MOT station doesn't bother.

    P.
     
    zymurgy, Sep 10, 2008
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  6. Lady Nina

    Champ Guest

    No, I meant that it was impossible for any bike to need 600 quid
    spending on it *just* to fix the MOTable issues.
    I stand corrected.
     
    Champ, Sep 10, 2008
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  7. Lady Nina

    Lozzo Guest

    The exhaust needs replacing from front to back - 350 quid minimum for a
    new stainless one that will last. Might find a used one cheaper on ebay.

    Fork seals and oil - 20 quid

    Chain and Sprockets - 100 quid

    Tyres - 150 quid

    That's just the MOTable issues without labour charges.
     
    Lozzo, Sep 10, 2008
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  8. Lady Nina

    Krusty Guest

    What size tyres does it take?

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    Krusty, Sep 10, 2008
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  9. Lady Nina

    Champ Guest

    Sounds like the exhaust is the main issue. Everything else can really
    be considered as consumables.

    This says you can get a new stainless micron system for under 200 :
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220279932550
     
    Champ, Sep 10, 2008
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  10. Lady Nina

    Lady Nina Guest

    Lady Nina, Sep 10, 2008
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  11. Lady Nina

    Lady Nina Guest

    The last time you saw the ZXR was when you fucked the chain yes?

    It's far, far worse than then.
    Not so much blowing as not really there in places.
    Tyres and chain are consumables but still needed now.
    Yes. Particular attention being paid to the tightness of brake levers.
    Though if it hadn't fallen off M wouldn't have needed to stay behind
    to translate, we wouldn't have had the day together, he wouldn't have
    gone ice skating on tha Pan and so on and so on.
    We agree.
    2 indicators are about 30 quid. It's the exhaust that's the main
    expense.
    I seriously doubt it can be done but if anyone wants to take a look at
    the pile of rust...
     
    Lady Nina, Sep 10, 2008
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  12. Lady Nina

    Lozzo Guest

    I'd rather buy the complete ZXR400H2 he's also listing instead of an
    exhaust system.
     
    Lozzo, Sep 10, 2008
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  13. Lady Nina

    Lady Nina Guest

    120/60 17 I was pricing them up earlier. They'll be squared off on a
    long thrash on wet then icy roads so sports rubber isn't an issue :)

    I don't even know why I'm dithering, I love the old knackered thing,
    in a way that is never going to happen with the Honda, I've got the
    money, it's some old puritanical hangover of 'being sensible' that I
    still can't quite shake. It's 4 months of no fags - there, justified
    it, I can go to bed and sleep easy.
     
    Lady Nina, Sep 11, 2008
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  14. Lady Nina

    Eddie Guest

    Stick a dB Killer in it.
     
    Eddie, Sep 11, 2008
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  15. Lady Nina

    Eddie Guest

    Oooh, look: a trick question. Do you really want an answer to that?

    The preferred solution to the problem of a fruity exhaust is to have an
    "arrangement", but this is not always possible; sometimes it's easier
    just to suck it up.

    Besides, a dB Killer takes seconds to fit, and comes in handy on track
    days. As used by royalty. Breaks the ice at parties.
     
    Eddie, Sep 11, 2008
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  16. Lady Nina

    Fr Jack Guest

    If you love it that much, put up with the Honda for a while and get
    someone (Lozzo, perhaps) to tear it down and do a bit of a restoration
    job on it. Once that's done, ride it how you want, but take better
    general care of it.

    This is, of course, if you *really* love it as much as you think. If
    not, get rid and save pennies for another bike that suits you.
     
    Fr Jack, Sep 11, 2008
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  17. Lady Nina

    Krusty Guest

    What, /both/ of them?
    See, that's partly what I was thinking. New sticky tyres will be pretty
    fucked by the time you get back, so as there's no rush, why not try to
    track down some partly worns for peanuts?


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    Krusty, Sep 11, 2008
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  18. Lady Nina

    Eddie Guest

    It was late, I'd been to the pub, and thought you were trying to be
    clever, because: there isn't a dB limit. It's down to the discretion of
    the tester:

    "2. A silencer which is in such a condition or is of such a type that
    the noise emitted is clearly in excess of that which would be produced
    by a similar machine fitted with a standard silencer in average condition."
    http://www.motuk.co.uk/mcmanual_710.htm
    Yeah, I think most non-road-legal pipes come with something similar
    these days. Have the "NOT FOR ROAD USE" markings been polished out?
    That's a fail too.
     
    Eddie, Sep 11, 2008
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  19. Lady Nina

    Champ Guest

    Because there isn't a db limit for MOTs

    hth
     
    Champ, Sep 11, 2008
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  20. Lady Nina

    CT Guest

    For some reason, I first read that as it would fail if the NFRU was
    polished out. More coffee, I think...
    If it has got it, a few minutes with a dremel will polish it off.

    Actually, is it true that if you just covered it with a piece of gaffa
    tape, then they couldn't fail it as they're not allowed to peel the
    tape off to have a look?
     
    CT, Sep 11, 2008
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