Bike Towed Trailer

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by GWD, Oct 2, 2011.

  1. GWD

    GWD Guest

    I'm hoping to do Solo around Aus around this time next year. A health
    issue means that I will need to carry batteries and equipment. I'm a
    bit worried about the weight of this stuff around 20 to 30 kg on top
    of standard stuff. The bike will be the R1200RT, ie enough power.
    Has anyone got any opinions re bike trailers on long trips? All
    opinions appreciated.
    GWD, Oct 2, 2011
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    Bill_h Guest

    I've use one behind the Trumpy, a Classic ultra-light. Most of the time I
    didn't know it is there. In tight twisties I could feel some push-pull,
    but nothing to be particularly worried about.

    Some years ago I recall a bloke on a ZZR, at one point he'd forgotten the
    trailer was on the back, and he had hit 180 + before remembering, looked
    around it was sitting well. I've had the trumpy up to 130 with the
    trailer, no problems.

    Ensure you balance the load in the trailer, seems to be the golden
    rule. .

    Fuel consumption will increase somewhat. From memory on the Trumpy
    economy dropped from 17-18 k/l, to 14-15 k/l.

    Bill_h, Oct 2, 2011
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    CrazyCam Guest

    I know nothing about towing trailers, so I'll keep quite on that, but...

    what kind of batteries are you talking about?

    I've recently fitted a new battery to my BMW, bought from this mob in
    the states

    It appears to be about three kilos lighter than the standard BMW battery
    and works fine, so far. :)

    If the gear you need to power requires 12 volts (they also do 5 volts)
    then getting lighter hi-tech batteries may help solve your problem.

    Remember, too, that your BMW has a decently powerful charging system.

    CrazyCam, Oct 2, 2011
  4. GWD

    CrazyCam Guest

    On 10/03/11 9:04 AM, CrazyCam wrote:

    Ooops...that was a typo, they do 12 and 6 volt, not 5.

    The 12 volt for the Beemer is just incredibly light

    CrazyCam, Oct 3, 2011
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    GWD Guest

    Well it's certainly worth a look. My current system uses 2x6 volts in
    series, charges on the run and works perfectly, but is quite heavy as
    a downside. I note that the CPAP manufacturers (for example) are now
    producing lithium ion battery packs that are quite cheap (my home made
    one was expensive), and weigh in at less then a kg. I will definitely
    check that out.
    Anyway. still interested in trailers and opinions thereof.
    Thanks Cam and Paul_h so far...
    GWD, Oct 3, 2011
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    CrazyCam Guest

    Be more positive, George...... "I'm going to do..."
    What is the "standard" stuff?

    Are you intending to camp, or are you taking a tent, gas cooker, 12 V
    fridge, and 3 slabs of beer, just in case you don't make it to the next
    town? ;-)
    OK, no direct knowledge, but.... an R1200RT is designed to carry a
    payload of.... whatever it sez in the handbook, probably something in
    the order of 200 to 240 kilos.

    My BMW is, by the book, capable of carrying 215 kilos of rider and
    pillion and/or luggage.

    It is _not_ designed to tow a trailer

    So, you could add the complexities of fitting a tow coupling, then a
    trailer, to carry extra gear.....

    Mate, good engineering principles.... keep it simple!

    Throw technology and money and logic at lightening what you really need
    to carry and you should get to ride the bike round Oz.

    I suspect that, if you go down the route of the trailer, the story will
    end up........"Maybe NEXT year, I'll do the round Oz."

    CrazyCam, Oct 3, 2011
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    GWD Guest

    Ah yes of course... I'm going to do...
    Camping, yes! Then there's other stuff like clothes, water,
    tyrepliers, toolkit... the list goes on.

    Well yes, I never thought I would overload the bike, but it would be
    very top heavy, and that might be an issue. The question is though
    would a trailer solve this?
    Very good advice, lines up with I thought anyway. Thanks for that.
    GWD, Oct 3, 2011
  8. Fit a sidecar George, they are magic,
    you would be surprised as to how much gear you will be able to carry in one
    George W Frost, Oct 3, 2011
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    Diogenes Guest

    He's got a Ural with a sidecar, George...


    Onya bike

    Diogenes, Oct 3, 2011
  10. GWD

    GWD Guest

    Very true
    The Ural has been considered as the outfit of choice for the big one,
    but poor power with poor top speed, spoked wheels and a few other
    things seem to make it a poor choice for the big one when compared to
    the perfectly lovely RT. The Ural is great for short range dirt stuff,
    and it can carry a good load of camping gear, cameras, easels etc, but
    I won't be taking it 10000 or more km around oz.

    Re: GWF's suggestion to stuff up the things I like about the RT with a
    side car. That solution is much more permanent than a trailer, and I
    like the RT as it is TYVM, so no suggestions that involve permanent
    changes thanks.

    I've had some good input re trailer, mostly negative though. It looks
    as if I go with the RT, using innovative load carrying solutions. I
    think keeping the c of g as low as possible is going to be an
    essential part of the innovation, is that correct?
    GWD, Oct 3, 2011
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    Diogenes Guest

    I'm no touring expert, having only done a small amount some years ago,
    but I'd go with the RT+trailer option. Much more fun, unless you're
    going to hoon, which I'm sure you're not.


    Onya bike

    Diogenes, Oct 4, 2011
  12. Sorry George, I didn't realise that you already had a chair but,
    it appears that I have been corrected by the most knowledgeable one of the
    group here.
    George W Frost, Oct 4, 2011
  13. GWD

    GWD Guest

    No problem, George, I appreciate the input.
    GWD, Oct 4, 2011
  14. GWD

    GWD Guest

    Good thinking.
    I've got a long time to think this out, so I'll take whatever time it
    needs to check out the luggage and means of carrying it. All I know is
    that lugging a heavy bike around streets and back tracks when loaded
    top heavy is not my idea of fun. Maybe I do something wrong - dunno
    but I prefer to be able to travel at walking speed without puckering
    up with whoopsie-daisy near drops, let alone completed ones. Yes, I
    know how to drive slowly but Murphy always brings an errant
    pedestrian, vision impaired 4wder or unexpected and unavoidable long
    pothole etc. I suppose I can invent ways to sling luggage low without
    compromising lean angles and overall width - all it will take is
    research. Positive words about trailers would be nice but I don't want
    lies :)
    GWD, Oct 4, 2011
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    Peter Guest

    I had a look at trailers a while back with the idea of taking gear into
    town by motorcycle instead of car.
    The things that put ME off apart from the cost was...
    The issue of parking.
    I also like to filter through the traffic at times.
    Trailers also have a load limit... thinking it was around 200kg.
    I have never towed with a motorcycle though.

    Quick eBay search looking for the one i saw trhe other week foudnt





    Peter, Oct 4, 2011
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    Diogenes Guest

    Dunno about being the most knoweldgeable, George, but I do know that
    I'm still waiting for _you_ to provide a clue as to where I might go
    to read about the RAE having sappers secretly building bridges in
    Vietnam in March 1963.

    In the meantime, here's the VVAA's Chronology of Australian
    Involvement In Vietnam:

    No one seems to have told them that the RAE snuck in there, building
    top secret bridges, well before the AATTV arrived.

    Come on, George, fess up...


    Onya bike

    Diogenes, Oct 4, 2011
  17. GWD

    Diogenes Guest

    Ooops. Make that 1962.


    Onya bike

    Diogenes, Oct 4, 2011
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "GWD" wrote
    I bought a bike trailer in 96, and it has been to Adelaide and back,
    to Sydney, as well as seven or more trips to PI from Perth. I estimate
    it has done about 45,000 kms. I purchased it new from the manufacturer
    in Adelaide. It was his first one after buying the business from Frog
    trailers. When I got it it had rubber torsion suspension, which turned
    into a disaster after a while so I had it converted to a live axle and
    leaf-springs. After that, it was terrific. It tows quite well but you
    need to remember to stay away from kerbs in the corners. I carried a
    tent, sleeping bag and mattress, 2 x 1 kg gas-bottles, stove, gas
    light on a stick, two chairs, a table, ten litres of extra fuel, and
    lots of other stuff that I thought I might need for three weeks away
    from home at a time. I found it much easier to tow a trailer than to
    tie all, or half, of that stuff on the back. At a campground I would
    have my tent up and be sitting in my deck chair and table with a
    beverage and a cigar before the other people got their bikes on the

    I gave up the cigars some years ago. Cigars and a pipe killed my
    granddad at 96. Poor bloke went before his time.

    Theo Bekkers, Oct 4, 2011
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    Yeebok Guest

    How the **** did we get from motorcycles to you carrying on about
    someone else not being in vietnam ?

    Shit that's right, you had no choice but to bring it up, when there's
    absolutely no need to - why not just cross post in
    like you normally do for attention ? :)
    Yeebok, Oct 4, 2011
  20. GWD

    Yeebok Guest

    I assume getting a CPAP each night isn't an option for you. A mate had
    one, never saw it but he described it as "well worth the hassle". Hope
    it's doing you as much good as it did him.
    Yeebok, Oct 4, 2011
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