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It's not in my plans to meet bubba in the first place.

 

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Hell of a way to find out how long you can hold your breath.

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Bollocks. You try sleeping on a concrete floor, or staring at the
other inmates cause there's **** all to do, or observing the *lovely*
paint scheme. Not to mention being limited in your movements to a
concrete box. And then, there's the food.

It's not particularly scary, unless you're being menaced, but it is
*very* unpleasant.

Or so I hear...

 

Matt Chapter says...

I signed up for just that sort of treatment in my teens. Character
building is what they called it then

 

Jarvis (oh I so would) has a new song about that.

http://hype.non-standard.net/search/cocker running world/1/

 

He's toned it down a bit, but yes.

 

I guess they were just too soft and should have been more careful to
remain in their pansy foo foo lives on the outside.

 

I didn't realise you had the experience

 

In which case I wouldn't have bothered to comment

 

It's enjoyable, a buzz. Admittedly it's been a while but Cane was back
in the ring recently IIRC

Urbam miff IMHO. What there is, as with the whole political spectrum, is
a polarisation of opinions between red and blue states.

There are lots of issues which I think should in fact be subject to
referendum

Have you seen the people we vote into government FFS?

 

On many social issues the politicians remain acutely aware of voter
opinion. Here the only guiding factors are a few noisy minority interest
pressure groups and media coverage.

You have just covered a third to half the population of the USA in those
two groups. They have larger homogeanous groupings in the USA it seems
to me.

I think it works in precisely the reverse way

 

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Utter boredom and lack of heterosexual sex would be the killers, that's
what I meant by unpleasant in the longer. If the system/inmate community
become too much, as has been suggested, go for solitary (1). Short
term, it's just an opportunity to catch up on your reading, innit. Like
any situation it's what you make of it. Don't wander around staring and
antagonising the psychopaths. If you are doing a long stretch get
straight down to pursuing education. Pragmatism.

(1) though depending where you are this would involve eating/exercise
with the sex offenders \

 

You could ask the question differently again and get 80/20 or 20/80

Mostly people who have never had to meet a payrole every month and too
many career politicians. I think they are a lousy bunch on all sides
with a few very notable exceptions. Curiously enough, although he is
both a career politician and lacking real world business/life
experience, I find Mr Blair to be one of the better ones, by some
margin.

 

Yeah, that's right.

Well of course there are some people that _enjoy_ the opportunity to
prove how hard they are, but IME the only people who claim that it's a
doddle are those whose lifestyles make jail time inevitable and who
propogate the myth with each other to try and make themselves seem
even harder.

Of course, the utter futility of prison is another thing altogether,
but can be a large part of its mind-numbing effect. The fact that
you're in there for no rational reason, and that it's harming you,
industry, the state, the whole of the bloody world to keep you in
there is in itself enough to seriously unhinge many people.

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Hog wrote

Look, I am pissed of with these "ukrm is not like the old days threads"
give it a fucking rest will you.

 

Hmm as a hard core probably, though ICBW and it could be a lot more
these days. I suspected that Wessie's definition of FC was comparable to
Darren's though i.e. all those who regard themselves as believers,
devout/regular/churchgoers. I think that's well over a third of the
population and as the Wetbacks flood the country they are bringing more
of it, albeit the RC flavour. Certainly the biggest consolidated voting
group.

 

Well I think a governments primary responsibility is to ensure
commercial and economic wellbeing. Social stability spins off somewhat
from there. So yes I do thing that a degree of real world business
experience is desirable.

I wasn't suggesting him/her. Rather I think that MP's should meet
certain requirements. Over 30. Educated to degree level. At least 5
years real life work experience. Some demonstrable success. No past
memberships of extreme left or right (1) wing groupings. No serious
criminal record. I don't think that is an excessively high bar, do you?

I could add white/protestant with a solid military background....but it
would be too transparent )

(1) yes yes, shocking, I know

 

<sigh> I'll say it again. A short term inside isn't hard and it isn't
difficult. It *certainly* isn't a deterrent unless you have some safe
middle class work/profession/family thing going on.

Prison falls down because it isn't set up as a work or education
environment (1). I agree the current regime is an utter waste of time,
unless you fall into the above mentioned category, in which case the
loss of face/employment is real. This current system could only have
value if it took repeat offenders and incarcerated them permanently,
which isn't practical. IMHO release should be conditional on meeting
certain targets/goals, expensive short term but as an overall system,
cheaper. Of course proper post release support is essential too but it's
currently negligible. The current state of affairs encourages
re-offending.

(1) though some folk, a few, do make the best of it

 

Hog wrote

The job of Westminster is to keep the dirty job of running the country
well downwind up the east end of The Mall.

T'other way round innit. Because we are nothing but proletariat type
scum we need to be taught how to behave proper by our social betters who
already have all the social stability they need.

Depends dunnit. In a Liberal Feudal Democracy like what we have got a
certain amount of that is important. It has no place in a full on
market driven capitilist ogrigarky society like the merkinainia.

 

Well agreed, depending on which version of the religion they follow

You wouldn't catagorise it as "everyone who voted Republican" then?