Bleedin' amateur restorers

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by The Older Gentleman, Feb 20, 2011.

  1. Another one. Another 400 Four, that is.

    Just about every bolt that I laid a spanner on turned out to be
    finger-tight. Including one of the three caliper mounting bolts. And one
    of the other two was missing entirely.

    The loom had been cut in half and then every single wire re-joined using
    those nasty cheap red crimped connectors.

    Wrong fasteners used, bodged mounts, the list went on and on.
    Fortunately, it's got plenty of bits In The Want, which is why it's
    being torn apart. But had I bought this thing as a runner (and it had a
    recent MoT!), I'd have been pulling it apart as well. Angry.

    Rare Component Of The Week award: the original metal plug caps. Removed
    and stashed away. Some anorak somewhere is going to want them,
    Hopefully, two or more such anoraks and then they can push the bidding
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 20, 2011
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    Simon Wilson Guest

    On 20/02/2011 22:34, The Older Gentleman wrote:

    Those are rare? I must have a look in my boxes-o-bits. Hateful things.
    My 400/4 often became a 3, 2, 1, 0 in the rain.
    Simon Wilson, Feb 25, 2011
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  3. They're amazingly rare. I've got 20 watchers but no bids yet....
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 25, 2011
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    boxerboy Guest

    Prace bets now.

    Opening bet in the sweepstake is £75 as the selling price

    boxerboy, Feb 25, 2011
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    Ivan D. Reid Guest

    Item number?

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    Ivan D. Reid, Feb 26, 2011
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    Paul-xxx Guest

    £35 - £40 .. ;)
    Paul-xxx, Feb 26, 2011
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    petrolcan Guest

    petrolcan, Feb 27, 2011
  8. I started the bidding at 99p, and there were no takers, so I revised the
    item start to £9.99. Another couple of days, no takers, so I revised it
    again to £19.99 and it just got the first bid.
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 27, 2011
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    Ivan D. Reid Guest

    Ivan D. Reid, Feb 27, 2011
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    TOG@Toil Guest

    On Feb 20, 10:34 pm, (The Older
    Gentleman) wrote:


    It got worse. The guy who'd won the engine on eBay turned up to hear
    and see it run before handing over the cash and helping me get it out
    of the frame. I always sell engines this way -it's the only way to do
    it, because otherwise you discover that while they're inevitably
    described as 'really good', they're anything but.

    The casting around the clutch lever was actually broken off and had
    carefully been replaced so it looked fine. So the lever was held on by
    a tiny bit of metal. That effectively wrote off the entire left-hand
    switch cluster. The deeper we got into it, the more useless fasteners
    we found: bolts the wrong length, wrong size or just missing

    The bolt that holds on the rear brake torque arm was literally hanging
    on by a thread. Obviously the split pin designed to stop it coming off
    was absent.

    One of the top fork clamp bolts was under-size (looked like 4mm intead
    of 6mm: the heads were 8mm, anyway, instead of 10mm).

    Two engine mounting bolts were just loose. The others were little more
    than finger-tight, and he's used 15mm nuts on some. The only bike I've
    ever owned that made liberal use of 15mm nuts was an old airhead BMW,
    and I had to go out and buy a 15mm socket for it. It saw plenty of use
    this weekend.

    "It's just as well he was such crap," said the engine buyer, cheerily,
    "because it's making it very easy to get this engine out."

    Anyway, we got the lump out double quick. The buyer had been very
    impressed at how sweet it was - it had actually done fewer than 8,000
    miles and was the best 400F engine I've come across in years. When
    we'd got it out, we pored over it, and you could tell it had never
    been touched. All the bolt and screw heads were pristine. Except for
    the ones on the alternator and points coveres, where matey had stuck
    in a couple of slot-head screws because he'd lost one or two.

    The buyer was as delighted as a dog with two dicks - his own engine
    had done 59,000 miles and was tired, and he had been steeling himself
    for a £1000 or so rebuild. And here was a perfect low-mileage engine
    for a third of that. Or, to put it another way, for the same price as
    a brand new OE set of 400 Four coils, sold two weeks before. He'd
    expected, as had I, that it would go for £450-500. Funny old world.
    TOG@Toil, Mar 8, 2011
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    Hog Guest

    You may recall my RD400.
    It nipped up with Loz on board heading to WUNderland. The plugs were finger
    Most of the other fasteners were either finger tight or over tight.
    Hog, Mar 8, 2011
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