BLOG/FOAK: a damned close run thing, and an enquiry about expansion chamber de-denting

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Pete Fisher, Mar 1, 2010.

  1. Pete Fisher

    Pete Fisher Guest

    Time to finish putting the new chain (heavy duty non-O-ring RK) on the
    SO YZ250 this morning. The chain runs *very* close to the new tyre. Just
    as well I didn't try anything wider than the AM23 club race 130/65 I had
    spare, or the chain would be chewing away at the chicken strips.

    Being the best weather so far this year I pulled it out of the garage
    for a mini test up the drive. Despite the 17 inch front wheel and
    letting the forks through the yokes it's still fucking tall until I have
    my weight on the saddle. I reckon I can drop the forks another 5mm and I
    will check the rear sag properly. Whether I can actually get aboard
    without a mounting block when wearing racing leathers is debatable.

    Started up surprisingly easily, but I suspect from the racket it makes
    it could do with at least a top end rebuild. I won't bother though,
    unless it blows up, or it shows promise with a view to the lad's
    progression in three years time.

    Difficult to judge the gearing over just 10 metres, but it certainly
    needs a lot more revs to get moving now.

    Anyone know somewhere in the West Midlands who could 'blow out' an
    expansion chamber? It is obviously an after market one with a much
    larger diameter than standard, but has some nasty dents probably caused
    by close encounters of the French rock kind. Not worth treating it to a
    new one unless I find it has potential (I'm keeping the Boyersen reeds
    in reserve as well). I've seen kits with bungs etc. on Ebay and I have a
    compressor and blow torch, but I'm not sure I fancy trying it myself.

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    Pete Fisher, Mar 1, 2010
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  2. Pete Fisher

    Simon Wilson Guest

    Fill with water - put in deep freeze? (Or leave it outside) I've heard
    it works on dented tanks.
     
    Simon Wilson, Mar 1, 2010
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  3. Pete Fisher

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    I've seen the theory applied to spannies when Googling. Should have got
    round to it 'naturally' a couple of weeks ago. Apparently you have to
    get the percentage just right or risk splitting the seams. I'm not sure
    SWMBO would approve of bunging it in our newly replaced freezer and
    doubt it would fit even with all the drawers out.

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  4. Pete Fisher

    platypus Guest

    I had the tank of the Drifter "blown out" after one denting episode. It
    ended up in the form of an amusingly-shaped potato. Have you considered
    using a slide hammer to pull the dents out?
     
    platypus, Mar 1, 2010
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  5. Pete Fisher

    Pete Fisher Guest

    I'm not to fussed about beautiful curves so long as the gas flow and all
    that resonance stuff is working OK, and it has one longish crease/dent.
    Do you have to weld to use a slide hammer, because it looks like it
    could be stainless steel.

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  6. Pete Fisher

    Simon Wilson Guest

    Involves drilling small holes AFAIK, screwing in the slidehammer
    doohickey, then welding up afterwards. (Or bunging up with a self-tapper
    I s'pose).

    I have a slidehammer but it would be a bit pricy to post.
     
    Simon Wilson, Mar 1, 2010
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  7. Pete Fisher

    Beav Guest


    NNNNNoooooooo. It'll **** it up, but *milk* won't.


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    Beav, Mar 1, 2010
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  8. Pete Fisher

    Beav Guest

    You can use a "Pin-puller". This is a gun onto which one drops a flat headed
    pin made of copper plated steel. The job needs to be erfectly clean and then
    the gun is applied, the trigger pulled and the pin is welded to the job. The
    pin stays behind when you remove the gun and you then fit the slide hammer
    and chuck over the pin, lock it in place and "Wallop", one dent coming out.
    When you've pulled, you waggle the pin and it drops off the job. Repeat as
    necessary until the crease is no more.

    I'd do it in about 5 minutes for you if you were anywhere near us, but I'm
    sure we're not the only workshop in the world that has a pin-puller. Most
    will, in fact, coz they're an indispensable tool. Find one and ask. I do
    have to say that I've no idea if it'd work on stainless though, coz I've
    never tried it.

    Like I say, it's a 5 minute job if the pins weld to the job.

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    Beav, Mar 1, 2010
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  9. Eggcup-ful of petrol, match, boomph, perfect(ly wrecked).
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Mar 1, 2010
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  10. Pete Fisher

    frag Guest

    Beav took a blunt brush and painted...
    Pah, you never offered to pin pull the dents out of my bonnet and wing!!
     
    frag, Mar 1, 2010
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  11. Pete Fisher

    Beav Guest

    Those are "Dentmaster" jobs :) I *will* pin pull 'em though, but you'll
    have to make good the paint after I've ground it off to allow the pins to
    stick.


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    Beav, Mar 2, 2010
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  12. Pete Fisher

    frag Guest

    Beav took a blunt brush and painted...
    Dentmaster? More like PartMaster.

    No bloody way will that bonnet or wing *ever* resemble the shape it was
    originally.

    Even more so since I've hammered shit out of both of them to get the light
    holes back to their approximate shape so I could fot the new lights.

    <recalls the Father Ted scene with the tapped car...>
     
    frag, Mar 2, 2010
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  13. Pete Fisher

    Beav Guest

    I remember now and youo're spot on :)
    Very correctamundo. The term "mullered" sprang to mind.
    I thought that was excellent blacksmithism.
    I only ever saw a couple of episodes, so that one's lost on me.



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    Beav, Mar 3, 2010
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