Blog: Users & Part-P

Users: Why do I bother writing user guides for software when people
completely ignore them and then wonder why things don't work?
Particular as the first line of most guides says "log in with X role
credentials" where those credentials are the ones that let them do the
things in the user guide?

Part-P: I'm perfectly capable of disconnecting the power shower in my
bathroom froma couple of wires and then connecting a new one. Why MR
Government do I have to hire a fucking sparkie to come and do it for
me?

 

It keeps my musician brother in beer vouchers over the winter when there
are no festivals to play at.

HTH

 

Because you'd rather not point out to Building Control that in fact,
Joe Public is not barred from taking this on (although he may lose the
will to live when getting his work signed off)? Because the NICEIC
tell a lot of porkies?

 

shush

 

deniability, in the event they decide to sue you.

as the sparkies became wealthier, they adopted middle class tactics and
started lobbying government to provide them guaranteed extra income without
the expense of advertising.

 

Tell me about it. At the moment my job consists of having to write
documents I know that nobody will really bnother to read.

It doth sucketh, verrily.

I'm fairly certain replacing a faulty device on the end of an existing
wire is all legit, if you were installing new wiring that's whne you
need a sparky.

 

No, I checked, it's notifiable. I thought it wasn't, that it was like
doing a cooker where if you re-connect to existing wiring you're fine.
But apparently not.

 

It's a bathroom, so pretty much everything bar changing a light bulb
is notifiable. You can do the work yourself after you've told
Building Control, but then you need to get it signed off. And to get
it signed off you need a sparkie who can see the work. And in a tiled
bathroom they can't so they won't accept the job unless they've done
it. I'm sure it's moneymaking scam by the sparkie's trade body.

Maybe I should just change career and become a plumber and
electrician.

 

"ginge" wrote ...

Unless it's wiring of "equivalent capacity" to replace a damaged section -
i.e. you can replace the inadequate cable that burned out / the plasterer
cut into with another piece of inadequate cable, but not with cable that
won't burn out and set your house on fire...

Part P requiring documentation that ties the sparky to the job does mean
that sparkies can't do off-the-cards jobs for cash, depriving HMRC of their
allotted 40% of everything, of course - and so now we can all safely trip
over trailing extension leads with 1/4" brass bolts in place of the fuse
("It kept blowing when I turned the grumble drier on while the Mrs was
arc-welding!") instead of having deadly dangerous permanent wiring that runs
in the walls with proper mains sockets and circuit breakers on the ends...

Dave H.
(The engineer formerly known as Homeless)

 

I fixed your post for you.

 

What would happen if you just did it yourself anyway?

 

Hang on - you work for the health service, and you're causing
casualties?

Shouldn't you declare some sort of conflict of interest?

 

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You don't have to if it's like for like.

 

No, I think you are mis-interpreting the rules.
It is a like for like replacement, so doesnt need any notification.
Alan.

 

No, it's job creation. That's why I never discourage people from smoking, I
work in Radiotherapy albeit as an electronics engineer.

--
Malc
R1100RS old and tatty

You laugh at me because I am different
I laugh at you because you are all the same

 

Believe me, it's very tempting, but I want to sell the place in a year
or so's time and with the new HIPs and a potential over-zealous
surveyor it could be a problem with an obviously completely new
bathroom.

 

Well, if someone can find me a reference for that then I'll happily
accept it, but all the Googling I've done says otherwise. I might
just ring Building Control at the council.

 

My dissertation had a similar title.

 

See the other post about HIPs.

And potentially Building Control could want to take everything apart
after the fact to check it's been done right. Which would be
expensive. I guess I'll just suck it up, do all the plumbing side of
things and book a sparky[1] to connect it up.

[1] 2 bloody visits as well, one when everything been stripped out so
they can see everything and one post.

 

You don't.

You can legally change it and do all the work, you just need a certified
waller to check it and sign it off.
Of course, if you don't tell anyone, and it's already there, well.... no one
will know, will they?

--
Greybeard

FLHR -03 UK (95 cu-in Stg 2. Big Boy 2!)

Garmin Zumo 550, To get me home!

ukrm@foxtails[dot]co[dot]uk