Bloody battery - Part 2

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Cab, Jan 12, 2010.

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    Cab Guest

    I bloody hope that Kawasaki have improved the battery placement on the
    new Z1000. What a fcuking nightmare to take it out and charge it up. I
    have no skin left on my fingers.
     
    Cab, Jan 12, 2010
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    antonye Guest

    antonye, Jan 12, 2010
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    Ace Guest

    Ace, Jan 12, 2010
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    Cab Guest

    I've already got a Frog version of that and when I connected the
    cables to the battery, I found that there wasn't enough bloody space
    in the battery compartment to put the battery back. The dremel is
    coming out tonight.
     
    Cab, Jan 12, 2010
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    Ace Guest

    The link showed the lead to connect to the accessory socket, so you
    shouldn't need to go anywhere near the battery.
     
    Ace, Jan 12, 2010
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    antonye Guest

    Could you not rotate the connectors so that they point upwards/
    sideways to give you more room? You might even get away with
    bending them slightly too.

    Might be worth a fiddle before breaking out the Dremel!
     
    antonye, Jan 12, 2010
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    Cab Guest

    Hmm, didn't see that. As it goes, I don't even know where/if the bike
    has an accessory socket.
     
    Cab, Jan 12, 2010
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    Cab Guest

    It was bloody cold this morning, so I froze my fingers off. I'll have
    a crack tonight. The problem is that the battery fits upside down into
    the battery compartment and there is very little space to play with.
    In the warmth of the garage, I should be able to get a better look.
     
    Cab, Jan 12, 2010
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    antonye Guest

    Be careful with the plastic as it gets very brittle when it's
    cold - I know this because I managed to snap a fin off the
    cooling fan of the BMW when I was replacing the serpentine
    belt out in the cold just before Christmas...

    It does make me wonder why manufacturers put batteries in
    funny positions. MV lay theirs down on the Brutale and it
    makes it very easy to put it in the wrong way round. As the
    leads are short, it gets connected up wrong, then the ECU
    goes pop...
     
    antonye, Jan 12, 2010
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    Cab Guest

    Heh, I know. :)
    I don't think that I'll have this problem, as the leads are shaped and
    lengthened to avoid this. The Z1000 is the first bike I've had where I
    have no space at all under the seats. The alarm and the ABS takes up
    every nook and cranny. This is probably why Kawa stuck the battery in
    this way. They probably forgot about it until some bright spark said
    something like "ABS, check; electronics, check; space for alarm,
    check. Battery, er, oh bugger [1], let's stick it in here, upside
    down, like"

    [1] In Japanese, obv.
     
    Cab, Jan 12, 2010
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    antonye Guest

    Heh.

    I've noticed seat units getting smaller and smaller in general
    on sportsbikes over the last 5+ years, and it seems that this
    is now the trend elsewhere too. They're probably using smaller
    batteries too to keep weight down, which doesn't help when it
    comes to longevity and power either.
     
    antonye, Jan 12, 2010
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    72degrees Guest

    There wasn't space on the tart to fit an alarm. Which TBF, in
    hindsight, is a good thing. I managed to get a permanent harness for a
    charger on though as there was just enough room to use the lead clamp
    bolts for the haness connections and hide the socket in a small niche
    under the seat. Just as well really seeing as the tail light mounting
    and a whole section of mudgaurd liner has to taken off just to get to
    the battery terminals. Plus you can't get it out without dropping the
    rear wheel partially out.

    I rigged up a home brewed harness for the Nordwest with wire a couple
    of crimp on terminals and a speaker plug/socket. Is there nowwhere at
    all that you could tuck the harness socket out of harms way zip tied
    to the frame?
     
    72degrees, Jan 12, 2010
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    Cab Guest

    Erm:

    1. I've got an alarm fitted onto mine.
    2. To get to the battery, I first remove the rear seat, then the front
    seat, then a metal bracket to reach the battery. What year Z1000 are
    you talking about?

    As for the battery, I'll need to figure out some way of seating the
    connectors of the battery cable so that I can still insert the battery
    afterwards.
     
    Cab, Jan 12, 2010
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    Beav Guest

    The 04 Zed battery is a piece if piss to change, but a pal bought an 08 one
    and that's a pure ****. I told him I'd not swap his bike for mine.

    They couldn't possibly make the new Zed worse. I hope.


    --
    Beav

    VN 750
    Zed 1000
    OMF# 19
     
    Beav, Jan 12, 2010
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    In communiqué
    Ah, forgot was posting to google groups under my alter ego. I was
    talking about general battery inaccessibility rather than specifically
    Z100s and my Voxan Roadster in particular.
    That really must be a very tight fit. The harness I used is actually a
    Bulldog charger one, rather than an Optimate. It added very little to
    the footprint of the main battery connections and I was able to route
    the wires fairly easily out of the battery stowage area. The socket has
    its own natty rubber sealing cap, so location isn't quite so critical.
    The Bulldog charger died, so I just made up an adapter cable to hook up
    an Optimate to the Bulldog socket.

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    Pete Fisher, Jan 12, 2010
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    Cab Guest

    Mine's an '08
    They could give it a damn good try...
     
    Cab, Jan 12, 2010
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    Cab Guest


    Job done. A few photos of the work I've been doing for the last hour
    (plus to give some people an idea as to what it looks like under the
    seats of a Z1000).

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/24244090@N07/sets/72157623198345508/
     
    Cab, Jan 12, 2010
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    wessie Guest

    wessie, Jan 12, 2010
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    zymurgy Guest

    Wimp. That's fucking luxury.

    On the 12R. First remove the fuel "tank". Then the plate over the
    battery, then wiggle it out, disconnect the cables, then jiggle the
    battery and tray out and over the fairing (which blocks the tray
    coming out of the frame).

    It's not for nothing that there's a gel battery in there and an
    optimate lead (which both went to darsy with the bike as there was
    **** all likelihood of me going back in there to get them)

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Jan 12, 2010
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    Cab Guest

    Cab, Jan 13, 2010
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