BMW K1100LT impressions

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by TOG, Sep 29, 2006.

  1. TOG

    TOG Guest

    Hm. I'm rather impressed actually.

    Fascinating to compare it with the now departed Trophy 1200. The Beemer
    doesn't have quite the grunt of the Triumph, but the difference is
    minimal, and the lower gearing of the K masks it to an extent. You can
    still just roll it on from 35 in top. On the Trophy, though, I'd
    sometimes roll open the throttle, find the transmission starting to
    snatch, and realise I only had 1000rpm or something on the clock. The
    Trophy is still the Torque Monster.

    Overall performance - Triumph, by a whisker. Slightly faster, but I
    don't think the difference between 130+ and about 140 makes too much of
    a difference.

    Handling - Triumph again. You can crank that Trophy over like you
    wouldn't believe. I haven't explored the BMW's limits yet, but the more
    upright riding position, the wider bars and (especially) the rubber
    mounts for the bars make the front end a bit lighter and more remote.

    Brakes - BMW. The Trumf's brakes were always adequate, but no more than
    that. The BMW's are a bit better, plus you have the ABS.

    Fairing - BMW knocks the Triumph into a cocked hat. Utterly brilliant
    shielding, and the leccy screen is a marvel. You can set it *exactly*
    how you want, for any riding position or stance. Lovely. I've just
    ridden through an M25 downpour and not got wet.

    Comfort - a draw, if you ignore the fairing issue. They've both got
    utterly superb seats and riding positions.

    Finish - a draw. The Trophy has been through three winters in my hands
    and the finish is still excellent. The BMW is much older, and still
    looks brand new, but I suspect it's been cossetted to a greater extent
    than the Trophy.

    Equipment - BMW, for sure. The Trophy also had heated grips, but the K
    has better instrumentation, including a temp gauge and fuel warning
    light as well as a gauge, plus that ABS. The K also has a top box,
    which was only ever an option on the Trophy. The speakers for a radio
    are fitted in the fairing, so adding sound shouldn't be too hard,
    whereas the Trophy had no provision whatsoever. Not that I want a
    radio, though. Only things I don't really like on the BMW are the
    indicator switches, and the fiddly steering and filler cap locks.

    Touring ability - yet to be decided, but I suspect the BMW will win.
    The Trophy's Achilles heel is its ridiculous thirst. It's got a useful
    range of about 160-180 miles, and riding like a nun can get this to 200
    miles, but generally you're refilling every 170-odd miles, at a cost ov
    well over £20 per tankful. I suspect the BMW will have a similar range
    but require less fuel.

    Oh, and the best bit. My insurance is due for renewal in three weeks'
    time, and two renewal quotes dropped onto the mat at the same time. The
    first was for the Trophy, Ducati and CD250, fully comp, £408. Not bad.
    The second was a revised quote, removing the Trophy and replacing it
    with the BMW. £289. So it's saved me £120 on my insurance.

    So yeah, I'm a happy bunny. I liked the Trophy, but I wouldn't have
    another. If Triumph were to produce a decent shaft-driven tourer,
    addressing the main faults of the Trophy (which was, after all, one of
    the original early-1990s bikes), I might be tempted.
     
    TOG, Sep 29, 2006
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    Hog Guest

    You are coming late into this discovery! One can spend countless hours
    fiddling with the screen. It's all in the timing of course but you
    should have bought my white one, it was *so* sorted. Shane got a really
    good bike there.
     
    Hog, Sep 29, 2006
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    Steve Parry Guest

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    Hm. I'm rather impressed actually.


    <snip>

    Ah another convert .. your slippers are in the top box and the pipe's in the
    fairing pocket Mr Murray ;)

    I know yours is the 1100 16v with barn door etc but as a comparison my 8v RS
    gets 200 miles per tankful.

    --
    Steve Parry
    K100RS SE & F650
    and a 520i SE Touring for comfort

    http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk
     
    Steve Parry, Sep 29, 2006
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    Donald Guest

    Maybe for me in three years time when I've finally got over the sports
    bike thing.

    Still miss my old R80RTs barn door like coverage but I prefer the K
    series engines. Might swap the K75S in for something like yours
    eventually.

    Although I'm acutely aware of the weight of the beemer now that I've
    been using the lightweight japanese thing.
    Here was me thinking I was riding like a nun for getting 137 miles out
    of the CBR (15.54 litres = 40 mpg yahoo!). Come to think of it the K75S
    used to only manage the same range and I wasn't riding it at 150 mph
    everywere.
     
    Donald, Sep 29, 2006
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    Lozzo Guest

    Donald says...
    I've had 150 miles from the Daytona before the fuel light has come on,
    then it only needs approx 15 litres in the 21 litre tank. That's quite a
    tank range for a sportyish bike.
     
    Lozzo, Sep 29, 2006
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  6. Well, I still have the Duacti.

    I always liked the 75S.
    It feels lighter than the Triumph.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 29, 2006
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  7. <Bad form>

    Bollocks! It doesn't fit through the garden gate.

    I used to fold in the mirrors on the Triumph, but the K's mirrors don't
    fold.

    Had to shift stuff and open the other (effectively non-opening bit) and
    just managed to get it into the garage. Then I couldn't shut the garage
    door. The bugger's bigger than it looks.

    Tomorrow is Garage Reshuffle Day.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 29, 2006
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  8. TOG

    ts Guest

    "Tankful" may be very subjective, depending on how far you drain it :)

    According to some BMW promo I've kept, the '92 LT should consume 4.9
    l/10km at a steady 90 km/h, whilst the RS figures were 4.7 for the '92
    (16v) and 4.3 for the'88 RS (8v).

    In real life, I got a 54 mpg average during a 2000+ mile trip to and
    around the Alps this summer. 200 miles: red fuel tell-tale light on,
    230: must find somwhere to fill up . . .
     
    ts, Sep 29, 2006
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  9. Sorry but <snigger>.

    I'm surprised that you didn't measure this - it was certainly something
    I considered very carefully with the GS and it's a tight squeeze.
     
    Paul Corfield, Sep 29, 2006
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    I think they're all pretty much the same - 200 miles and it's time to
    go and fill up again. All my Ks were like that.
     
    Timo Geusch, Sep 29, 2006
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  11. TOG

    deadmail Guest


    I've seen little difference between the K1100 and the K100.

    My 1100 has averaged 42mpg over about 5,000 miles.
    My K100's have averaged 39mpg over 50,000 miles, 37mpg over 7,000 and
    42mpg over 6,500.

    What this means in terms of miles per tankfull is that I've got jumpy
    when I get close to 140 miles. I have seen 210 miles once but I was
    very, very careful.



    I'll find out what the K75's like shortly 'cos I've got one on the way,
    ex Plod doesn't look that bad:

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=011&item=320028938633

    stylish luggage... Which will soon be off I think.



    Hog, if I fit a K100RT rear bevel box to a K75 will that lengthen the
    gearing significantly enough to be worth bothering with?
     
    deadmail, Sep 29, 2006
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  12. I thought that if the Trophy fitted, a K1100LT would.

    I was wrong.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 29, 2006
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  13. I fucking hope not.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Sep 29, 2006
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  14. TOG

    ts Guest

    Ooopps - that should have been l/100 km :) The big K's are heavy, but
    not that thirsty.

    For the record, 4.9 l/100 km equals 57.65 mpg (x = 282.48105 / y)
     
    ts, Sep 29, 2006
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  15. Well clearly. I am just surprised you didn't actually measure up -
    especially given how crammed your garage actually is and how you do
    manage to organise it even though it masquerades as chaos.
     
    Paul Corfield, Sep 29, 2006
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  16. TOG

    platypus Guest

    platypus, Sep 29, 2006
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  17. You wouldn't say that if you saw the inside of my flat.
    I can see that you might say that (although I have my doubts) but I have
    experienced the TOG garage and all this "I'm a bit disorganised" persona
    doesn't wash. This is the chap who effectively runs a second hand bike
    business from his house, gets a trade paper out on schedule no matter
    what and organises TOG tours with barely a bat of an eyelid.
     
    Paul Corfield, Sep 30, 2006
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  18. Paul Corfield, Sep 30, 2006
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  19. Grimly Curmudgeon, Sep 30, 2006
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  20. <Hollow laughter>
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 30, 2006
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