BMW R1100S frame failure and repairs

the one i got for the 916 said 5kg which with the size of the bag they
supply
is fuckall

i flew to melbourne to pick up a bike and threw the ventura bag into checked
luggage

with a shirt , socks, jocks, sneakers and not much else it came in at about
6 kg

 

I did actually read it and the problem with your end of the story is that it
is unclear.

If your mate can say that "Yes, something was wrong with the bike the moment
I tipped it into the corner." then you have strong cause to chase this up.
The fact is you don't know so why should any company honour a warranty for a
probable fault that may have come as a result of the crash?

justAL

 

If they want to donate any used, or unused Snap-On tools I'd happily lighten
their load.

justAL

 

I didn't know that! Yes I did, you told me a few years ago, just before I bought my RS.

That's good of them! But I think they forgot to inform my mate, who was still spitting venom
about it years later. Yes, he bought it new (from Shitmans in Darwin).

Gary

 

Yipe that was bad. Do you think I should buy a used R1200?
Are they the same frame? Perhaps I'd better not buy a BMW after all.

 

Perhaps you should also strike the SV1000S off the list too. I had one
written off. The entire front end was destroyed but the tail fairings were
untouched. Suzuki still won't come to the party regarding how unrobust the
front end is.


justAL

 

Very poor quality those BMW's parts of the frame can break if you crash
them. Unheard of on a good Japanese bike.

Boxer

 

http://www.ural.com.au/classic.html

 

Hell yeah. Room in the back for the missus & kids too.
I wonder if it'd tow a trailer full of tents & tinnies.

 

Does it come with a matching trailer?

Hmmmm, I could get rid of the ute. No, hang on, I would need the ute to get
it home.

Theo

 

Addressing a problem usually means that a solution or some sort of
outcome results from that. Simply stating a view of what may have
happened isn't addressing anything. Rather, it's BMW covering its arse,
which is understandable, I s'pose.

It's like Holden with the VT onwards series of Commodores. These models
experienced severe rear tyre scrubbing due to a poorly designed IRS.

Holden refused to acknowledge any problem, instead, blaming it on the
driver's maintenance regime (not correctly infating tyres, towing loads,
etc.). It's funny how with the VX series onwards that Holden fixed the
design flaw, and that VT owners could have an aftermarket kit fitted
that addressed the problem.

Yeah, by riding it, he exceeded the specs.

I just finished reading the current AMCN issue's review of the next
model, the R1200S. Similar in design, there is a paragraph that says
that the sub-frame is easily replaced in the event of a crash.

Maybe they're designed to break, perhaps. Whatever, I would like to
think that what I'm riding doesn't have shear points, like what the
mate's Beemer seemingly has.

What about other sports bikes, like R1s, ZX10s and the like? Have any of
them suffered a structural failure after an off, whether minor or major?

The thing is, the frame was not subjected to any impact forces. Rather,
the most force exerted on it would've been the rider being bounced up
and down as the bike slowed to a stop in the ditch.

Of course, there was a section of dirt that was a tad rough. Perhaps
that weakened the frame. I don't know. That's merely guessing.

But as I said, it's unclear whether the break occured before or during
the "crash".

In any case, the insurer picked up the tab. Whether the mate wants to
pursue it further I don't know. It doesn't sound like he does. Unless of
course, it happens again....

 

That's up to you, of course. The BMW R1100S is a good bike. It goes
well, and with the Ducati-look-alike pipes on it, doesn't sound too bad,
either.

But after reading the review of the R1200S be prepared for any event
that may occur, is all.

 

Dunno whether people are starting to be sarcastic here or not. Whatever,
the above won't achieve anything. There's nothing wrong with the bike,
and the dealer did what it could to resolve the issue.

 

No I was being serious.
Someone I know of did this with a car on the Nepean outside a car dealer.
(though not sure how you park a comtuer)
New car had fault, dealer sent car back 3 times with same fault until owner
spat it and parked out the front.
They got a new car.
Sounds like the insurance company now owns the bike but if you wanted BMW to
pay attention that's what I would have done. Be a shame to put the new bike
through it's paces only to find out it does have a fault and be left with a
permanent injury, I've just started riding but if I had (another) stack and
felt it was a faulty bike I think I would have trouble trusting the same
bike again.
Or maybe it was your mates pride that was damaged.

 

A portable swimming pool?

Postman Pat

 

well there was the infamous Gixxer cracked and broken frames

unfort a y product of how things are made now

frames are made strong and lightweight

but push them ways they arent supposed to be pushed and things turn bad

 

There must be something seriously wrong with me.... I think that looks
kinda' good!

 

~
Pssst Pete; a few stick-on bullet-holes and you'd hardly know the
difference!

 

I'd have a Ural in my garage if I had more space and more money... it
could sit next to the Enfield I'd have then too ;-)


G-S

 

"We expect to appoint dealers in 2002..."
[puts credit-card back in wallet]