BMW U-joint spiders

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Technical Discussion' started by Rob Kleinschmidt, Sep 17, 2009.

  1. I've got a modified '88 BMW airhead paralever driveshaft
    with circlip retained, zerk fitted spiders that read

    "Germany INA f-200698.1 GHJ"

    About 48mm+ long with a bearing OD of 19mm.

    Anybody able to suggest a source for these buggers ?

    Not in a big hurry, but would like to have this info for
    future reference. INA is the bearing company I believe.
    Contemplating a possible DIY replacement.

    Thanks
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Sep 17, 2009
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    no_one Guest

    Aside from the fact that WW1 was initiated by a Serbian nationalist attack
    on Austro-Hungary, your grasp of history is impeccable!
     
    no_one, Sep 18, 2009
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  3. Rob Kleinschmidt

    Outback Jon Guest

    Except that the Germans' reaction involves less stones.

    --
    "Outback" Jon - KC2BNE

    http://folding.stanford.edu - got folding? Team 32

    2006 ZG1000A Concours "Blueline" COG# 7385 CDA# 0157
     
    Outback Jon, Sep 18, 2009
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  4. Rob Kleinschmidt

    Schiffner Guest

    Heh, they just drop the offender off in Hoehenfel's and let the wild
    hogs deal with it. If you make it out alive you are considered
    innocent and sin free. ;^)
     
    Schiffner, Sep 18, 2009
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  5. Rob Kleinschmidt

    TOG@Toil Guest

    This isn't quite right. The system is that aftermarket parts have to
    be approved by the inspectorate, TUV. Their testing is very stringent
    and expensive, and for small accessory companies, it isn't worth the
    hassle or expense.

    But if you gain TUV approval, that tells the rest of Europe that
    you've cracked the big one, and your stuff is good.
     
    TOG@Toil, Sep 18, 2009
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  6. I found a driveshaft rebuilder who says he can also sell
    me the part.

    http://www.hendersenprecision.com/indian_moto/bmw_products.html

    He says roughly $65 parts cost for the spiders alone.

    His $450 drivshaft rebuild involves tack welding extra
    rings on the ends of the yokes for a circlipl channel,
    replacement of the OEM spiders with the same Zerk
    fitted one that I was trying to source and replacement of
    the center shock coupling with a new one, your choice
    of stiffness.

    I talked to the owner on the phone for a while and he tells
    me that my driveshaft is in incredibly good shape for
    the kind of milage it's racked up. Since I'm pretty busy
    replacing the final drive, I think I'll let it go for another
    season, but I definitely like this shop.

    He also claims he had absolutely no part in starting
    either WWI or WWII, though I cannot personally verify
    this.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Sep 18, 2009
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  7. Actually, there are some "sheddies" in Germany making some
    really nice aftermarket high tech stuff for the bike, but you're
    correct that they're working outside the established supply chain.

    If you're in the orthodox chain, the idea of somebody marketing a
    wierd top gear with one less tooth that mates with a stock gear by
    using
    bizarre gear tooth curves is probably horrifying beyond belief.

    Cranking out strange and horrifying aftermarket parts from an backyard
    machine shop may be a sort of Gemanic equivalent of sticking it to
    the man.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Sep 18, 2009
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    Schiffner Guest

    <sigh> might as well do it while you are in there...that's how I tend
    to work. Saves time and effort not to mention money in the long run.
     
    Schiffner, Sep 18, 2009
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  9. I think I'll hold off for a year. I do about 10,000-15,000
    miles a year and usually plan an anual pulldown to
    lube U-joints and clutch splines. Right now, I just want
    to get back on the road while the weather's still good.

    Might not hurt though to have the spiders stashed away
    and waiting. What's an optimal sized hammer for bashing
    this kind of delicate stuff ?
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Sep 18, 2009
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    Twibil Guest

    How much can you lift?
     
    Twibil, Sep 18, 2009
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  11. The driveshaft was done in '97. I bought the bike in 2000
    and put about 100,000 miles on it since. No real complaint
    about the driveshaft but the clutch splines are a PITA.

    How well does that belt hold up in dirt and gravel ?
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Sep 18, 2009
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  12. Rob Kleinschmidt

    Schiffner Guest

    Still you got my point right?
     
    Schiffner, Sep 18, 2009
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  13. Right. And it's going to bug me a little bit right up until
    I actually swap the spiders. And bug me more than a
    little bit if it blows up before then.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Sep 18, 2009
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  14. Rob Kleinschmidt

    Schiffner Guest

    Why, you are missing out on great scenery and interesting roads.
     
    Schiffner, Sep 19, 2009
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  15. Rob Kleinschmidt

    Schiffner Guest

    Similar terrain except in germany. I knew a SFC that got treed by a
    couple of sows with piglets there. It's a BIG training area in germany.
     
    Schiffner, Sep 19, 2009
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  16. You might like to take a look here

    http://www.wirthwein-motoren.de/index.php?function=cms_show&id=59
     
    Bruce Richmond, Sep 19, 2009
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  17. Bruce Richmond, Sep 19, 2009
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  18. Rob Kleinschmidt

    Schiffner Guest

    Side car wtih deployable pontoons? That ought to mitigate swamp issuse.
     
    Schiffner, Sep 19, 2009
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  19. Probably a good thing not to ride gravel
    with a belt drive bike. If it weren't for that,
    I'd be seriously interested in belt drive.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Sep 20, 2009
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  20. Never dealt with motoren-israel though I've heard
    of them. I have bought from Siebenrock and Motobins.
    Lots of good stuff out there on the internet. With
    Siebenrock, the computer translated correspondence
    back and forth was pretty entertaining.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Sep 20, 2009
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