Bollocks. Piaggio Ape problems....

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by The Older Gentleman, Aug 9, 2007.

  1. Just had a letter from the the DVLA referring to the Ape's MoT and
    headed:

    Vehicle reg X123ABC//X124ABC

    (ie: two consecutive number plates).

    Seems the MoT doesn't match the VIN number. I always, always always
    check but this time, as the bloke selling I was one of the honchos at a
    bike shop, I didn't, and I was in a hurry. It had the V5, current MoT,
    old MoT....

    He had two for sale, so I rang him last night, and yep, the other one is
    consecutively registered. One digit previous. And it's the number
    mentioned on the DVLA letter.

    My V5 and *old* MoT bear the wrong VIN number.

    Turns out he has just MoT'd the other one, and is now going to check the
    VIN number on it. I *bet* it's the VIN I've got.

    Somewhere along the line, and probably when they were both first
    registered in 2000, there was a hiccup. Of course, the MoT station
    *should* have read the VIN number off the VIN plate and put it on the
    MoT, but I bet they just took it off the old MoT, or maybe the V5 (I had
    to hunt like hell for it - it's under the seat. Where the choke is,
    amusingly enough).

    Or the number plates possibly got swapped over at some point (remember
    both were supposedly being used as airport vehicles in the past).

    In theory, we ought to be able to swap the two MoTs, correct the VIN
    numbers on both V5s, and send all the details to the DVLA in one lot.
    But I am having a nasty feeling that it may be complicated. It's not
    dishonesty - the dealer, Taylors, has been in business for 60 years.

    So..... a few questions for the FOAK:

    1. Why didn't the incorrect VIN number show up when the thing was being
    MoT'd? Doesn't the new computerised system show this?

    2. Will not taking the VIN number from the vehicle itself cost the MoT
    station its ticket?

    3. Likely outcome with the DVLA guesses?

    4. Although it was a private Ebay sale, what responsibility does the
    dealership itself have? ISTR that it's an offence to sell any dodgy[1]
    vehicle from a dealer's premises, private sale or not.

    [1] Not that I think there's been any nefarious intent here, I stress.
    But MoTing and selling a vehicle that isn't the one it should be is a
    bit silly.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 9, 2007
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    Nick Guest

    The Older Gentleman wrote:

    <snip> Tale of two plates

    <cough> Swap plates with the dealer? <\cough>

    Nick
     
    Nick, Aug 9, 2007
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    TOG Guest

    Heh. Can't, now the index number is registered to me.

    Sorted, anyway. God, the DVLA has changed from days of yore. The phone
    is picked up quickly by a human being and not a robot, and the people
    there know what they're doing.

    Yes, the two Apes had the VIN numbers transposed since birth! So I
    just fill in the form they sent me and post it off with the MoT, and
    get back a V5 and MoT bearing the correct VIN number. And matey sends
    off his V5 and that's amended too.

    Sorted.
     
    TOG, Aug 9, 2007
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  4. It says there's a problem but you can force it to ignore it. DVLA then
    get on the case, like wot you've found out.

    John
     
    John Greystrong, Aug 9, 2007
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  5. Cheers. I'm still utterly gobsmacked at how good and helpful the DVLA
    is, bearing in mind the last time I had dealings with them was over 20
    years ago....
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 9, 2007
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