The strut on the garage door just sheared off. I've kept the damn thing going about 5 years beyond the normal give up and buy a new one point [1]. So I've either got to shell out about 300 or so squid just after Xmyth to get a man in to fit a new one [2] or build some swingy open stylee ones for about half the price. [1] by the judicious application of lead pots used for storing radio isotopes and wire rope and pulleys and stuff [2] at this time of year? -- Malc R1100RS old and tatty You laugh at me because I am different I laugh at you because you are all the same